Heavy fog at Melbourne causes 1400km detour for Jetstar passengers

[straitman]

And the many others that agree with me are better off.

Once again a totally subjective comment and many others would disagree :!:

Therefore I humbly suggest that we need to agree to disagree. :-|

Thank you. I was asked to suggest alternate plans. It was an opinion. Not fact and I never claimed it was fact.

Accepted. What I have stated is fact and not an opinion.

Really? I wonder how many QF and DJ flights has similar issues yesterday or carry over issues this morning?

I would suggest that QF would be much better off, DJ a little better off and TT a lot worse off because of the relative extra, or otherwise, capacity of each of these airlines.

 

[straitman]

Maybe crazydave98 can tell us how DJ went. Anyone have information of QF/TT activitiy?

v8Statesman,

Have a look at my third answer to JohnK above in post #15 above. The company has an input but ultimately the pilots make the decision based upon the weather forecast. It's quite possible that an aircraft that left 30-60 min later would get in OK.

For what it is worth the picture also gets clouded by the availability of take-off and landing slots, air traffic control delays, or otherwise and many more things.

I'm not defending JQ here just trying to put forward a very simplified version of how the system works.

 

[oz_mark]

I would suggest that QF would be much better off, DJ a little better off and TT a lot worse off because of the relative extra, or otherwise, capacity of each of these airlines.

Another factor is how much IT systems support you have for shuffling things (e.g. pax) around when something goes wrong. I understand for Qantas, things are pretty much automated from the view of shuffling pax around, working out what to do with aircraft and so on.

I am not sure if the newish JQ systems provide much support for these things, but certainly on the old system, I believe the shuffle was quite a manual process.

Given the relatively smaller fleet, TT may have found things a bit easier than JQ.

 

[straitman]

Given the relatively smaller fleet, TT may have found things a bit easier than JQ.

By ignoring people for a day just because they could :!:

 

[munitalP]

As far as I remember - QF, TT and DJ do not fly out of AVV so their coping of the situation is somewhat irrevelent eh?

I have never seen a JQ flight turn around at AVV without refueling - that alone is a statement - they obviously have a far greater than N-1 redundancy in fuel load calculations to enable the aircraft to continue to BNE after an aborted landing at AVV :!:

Previously posted - join the q at SYD - the PAX may well have been sitting around for a considerable time somewhere over Woolooingong in a holding pattern well after the flight had landed at BNE :shock:

JK - Ryan and JQ - I have flown both, you know my thoughts on Ryan yet I still happily board JQ

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[JohnK]

JK - Ryan and JQ - I have flown both, you know my thoughts on Ryan yet I still happily board JQ

Yes we have spoken of it a number of times.

I agree that Ryanair is the pits but as I am impatient person I do not want to give Jetstar the opportunity to put me on SYD-AVV-BNE-MEL flight when I need to be in MEL at a certain time.

Simply put Jetstar does not have the capacity to service key routes while QF, and to a leeser extent DJ, do a great job at providing alternate flights....