Filming takeoffs and landings

[woolnough04]

I know you have to turn phones ipods and such off in aircrafts.What are the rules reguarding cams during takeoffs and landings.I know a lot of people do it but is it allowed or not.

 

[haydensydney]

I know you have to turn phones ipods and such off in aircrafts.What are the rules reguarding cams during takeoffs and landings.I know a lot of people do it but is it allowed or not.

I believe Jetstar allows you to use camera's at all times, however some other airlines specifically restrict the use of cameras. The safety card onboard generally outlines whats OK to use and whats not.

I love to film my takeoffs and landings irrespective of the safety card instructions. There may be some vocal opinions on this forum that call this irresponsible, but going by the number of these videos online/on youtube i'm not alone.

 

[mvjs]

I've never been told to turn off my camera by FAs over dozens of flights.

Their main concern has been that I use the strap to put it around my neck.

 

[Dave Noble]

I love to film my takeoffs and landings irrespective of the safety card instructions. There may be some vocal opinions on this forum that call this irresponsible, but going by the number of these videos online/on youtube i'm not alone.

I see. So if someone burgled a house and filmed it and placed on you tube , or broke driving laws and posted on you tube, then obviously these are ok too?

Dave

 

[swylie]

I'm with you Dave - rules are rules, laws are laws, and electronic devices are electronic devices.

 

[DJ737]

Hi there

I suppose if FA's were walking around the cabin during take off they might say something, but as they are seated and most video is shot from a window seat, the F/A's probably wouldn't know.

Video footage could also be useful to accident investigators, if the take off doesn't go to plan. :mrgreen:

Cheers
DJ737

 

[samh004]

I was going to say… not this thread again, but I see it’s just the same question asked in a new thread.

I’ve seen some safety cards that say that using a camera is allowed.

I see. So if someone burgled a house and filmed it and placed on you tube , or broke driving laws and posted on you tube, then obviously these are ok too?

Dave

Your analogy is taking it to the extreme, just like those anti-piracy adverts that liken downloading music to stealing a car… but I’ll tell you what, if I could download a car… I so would!

 

[Svenc]

I've filmed heaps with both video cams and movie mode on a digital camera - never had an issue. Interestingly, when they say phones etc can cause the plane to do the opposite of what it should do - never seen a phone cam used in a disaster cause the plane not to crash !! LOL.

 

[Dave Noble]

I was going to say… not this thread again, but I see it’s just the same question asked in a new thread.



Your analogy is taking it to the extreme, just like those anti-piarcy adverts that liken downloading music to stealing a car… but I’ll tell you what, if I could download a car… I so would!

Not really. The DVD advert states that downloading is stealing whilst it is actually copyright infringement so seems v flawed

The analogy I am using is that arguments such as "others do it" are risible and provide no justification for doing it.

If not liking the rules that an airline puts in place, then don't use that airline; I don't think that it is valid to suggest that one should just choose which rules/laws to follow based on desire and "that other people do" .

Dave

 

[haydensydney]

I see. So if someone burgled a house and filmed it and placed on you tube , or broke driving laws and posted on you tube, then obviously these are ok too?
Dave

Obviously not. However one doesn't need to be blind, deaf or mute to note that those examples are a different kettle of fish.

OP - theres heaps of debate on the following thread if you want to check it out.

http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/community/open-discussion/getting-buzz-out-recording-takeoffs-19808.html

 

[Skyring]

Hi there

I suppose if FA's were walking around the cabin during take off they might say something, but as they are seated and most video is shot from a window seat, the F/A's probably wouldn't know.

Video footage could also be useful to accident investigators, if the take off doesn't go to plan. :mrgreen:
Cheers, DJ737

...because there was some sort of electronic interference...

 

[ejb]

I must agree with Dave here. If you don't like the rules don't fly.

If we all could choose the rules we followed and ignored the ones we didn't like it would be chaos.

The rules are there for a reason and even if we don't know the reason, the fact that the rule exists is enough reason to follow it.

ejb

 

[737]

Hey,

From the QF Cabin Crew Ops Manual:

"PEDs of the following kinds may be used at any
time, except when special operational restrictions
are applied by the Captain:
• Electronic watches, GPS, electric shavers, video
and still cameras, pocket calculators and other
devices powered by micro-cell batteries and solar
cells."

I would assume this is the same for JQ too. There is no rule saying that they cannot be operational during take-off and landing... However, some FA's may treat these as 'loose articles' and asked for them to be put away.

It would not be wrong for an F/A to ask you to put your device away as it could be used as a missle in the event of a non-normal take-off or landing. It is a grey area I guess, and it up to the Cabin Crew on the day. Although you can use it, you may be asked to "secure" it by putting it away, and of course, you would follow the direction of the F/A as you are required by law to do so

 

[anat0l]

From the QF Cabin Crew Ops Manual:

"PEDs of the following kinds may be used at any
time, except when special operational restrictions
are applied by the Captain:
• Electronic watches, GPS, electric shavers, video
and still cameras, pocket calculators and other
devices powered by micro-cell batteries and solar
cells."

A similar text is printed on the back of the QF safety cards. So although a camera is an electronic device, according to the rules it is safe to be used on QF aircraft at all times (except where specifically directed).

Now interesting to this would be, say, an iPhone (which can obviously take pictures) switched onto flight mode.

I know VS safety cards have a rule saying that there are to be no cameras used during take off and landing. Again different rules. The evidence is attached.

So it varies from airline to airline. It may be plausible that a video or still camera can cause interference, but it seems tolerable on some airlines; that is not to say that on airlines where it is not tolerated that it is right to "break the rules" on the insistence that other airlines allow it.

Just as airlines vary on when they hit the seat belt sign button depending on the level of turbulence.

 

[BAM1748]

Use of cameras is related to the loose items in the cabin, not the electronics.

Matt

 

[Mrmaxwell]

I see. So if someone burgled a house and filmed it and placed on you tube , or broke driving laws and posted on you tube, then obviously these are ok too?

Dave

Dave...you really have not lived until you pull out your iPhone (in flight mode of course)...hit record and fly in the face of the law as you record your next take off.

Try it...I dare you...live on the edge

 

[Dave Noble]

Dave...you really have not lived until you pull out your iPhone (in flight mode of course)...hit record and fly in the face of the law as you record your next take off.

Try it...I dare you...live on the edge

um why? Why would I want to record a plane taking off especially using an iphone that I don't have during a time when it is explicitly forbidden anyway

 

[straitman]

I normally bite at this one but I am not even going to waste my time on this occasion.

 

[medhead]

um why? Why would I want to record a plane taking off especially using an iphone that I don't have during a time when it is explicitly forbidden anyway

The information in post #13 doesn't read as explicit verboten. but then might be a bit hard without an iphone, or even with my iphone which ain't doing video. Low resolution, blurry iphone still picture - meh!

 

[737]

I'll add this one then

"Group 3:
Devices permitted for use
inflight once the Seat Belt
signs are extinguished after
takeoff, provided the ‘flight’
mode (non-transmitting)
capability of the device is
selected prior to the device
being switched off, until top of
descent
Mobile phones, PDAs with in-built phones and
computers or computer peripherals with in-built
devices using GSM (includes 3G and GPRS
technologies), CDMA or the AMPS."