F on 777/777ER

[Isochronous]

Am looking at a MEL-SIN-HKG F redemption and for the dates and times that suit with work schedule it's on SQ238/SQ2 using a 777 and then a 777-300ER.

What's F like on these birds? I gather probably not as good as A380.

I haven't flown SQ for 6 years, and only ever in Y. Since then I've flown international J on QF, CX, AY, FJ, MH, and QR. Will SQ top them all?

I know Suites is better than SQ F, but there don't seem to be Suites offered ex MEL anymore - should I look to redeem ex SYD (if they still offer them there)?

 

[HB7]

Am looking at a MEL-SIN-HKG F redemption and for the dates and times that suit with work schedule it's on SQ238/SQ2 using a 777 and then a 777-300ER.

What's F like on these birds? I gather probably not as good as A380.

I haven't flown SQ for 6 years, and only ever in Y. Since then I've flown international J on QF, CX, AY, FJ, MH, and QR. Will SQ top them all?

I know Suites is better than SQ F, but there don't seem to be Suites offered ex MEL anymore - should I look to redeem ex SYD (if they still offer them there)?

I'm not too sure of the F on the 777, but if I were you I would change to the 777-300ER out of Melbourne which is offered on SQ 218 OR SQ228. This is a fantastic product and I can guarantee you that short of anything really wrong happening, these will be far and away better than any of those J products in regards to both hard product and soft product.

In regards to the A380 out of Melbourne, it is currently in operation till July 20th for the busy season and then all flights ex MEL will revert to 777's and 777-300ER's.

Whatever happens, you can't really go wrong with SQ F. Enjoy your trip.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

SQ F on 777 and 77W are identical product - indeed if I had a choice of either I am more than happy to go 777 as it has overhead bins. 77W and new F on 77WN do not have overhead bins. Of course R on 380 is significant step up - if you dep SYD then it's a no-brainer depending on connections either end.

Positioning in Oz for SYD PITA - but that's for you to decide.

 

[vantage03]

I've said it before and am in the minority of thinking this way on these forums, but I would actively take new SQ F on a 777 before SQ R on the A380 (although both are obviously great).

For me the much smaller cabin lends itself to much better and more personalised service, it just feels like these crews try harder on average.

Also, some of the A380s are getting very tired. There's also more demand for the A380 as naturally people want to fly it, so more chance of a fuller cabin too.

In any case, you won't be disappointed. But don't be worried about the 777!

 

[Alanslegal]

I haven't flown SQ for 6 years, and only ever in Y. Since then I've flown international J on QF, CX, AY, FJ, MH, and QR. Will SQ top them all?

SQ F will smash any J product That said my last SQ F flight was in 2007 though :shock: but we have flown a range of F and J products since then.

 

[Duffa]

Am looking at a MEL-SIN-HKG F redemption and for the dates and times that suit with work schedule it's on SQ238/SQ2 using a 777 and then a 777-300ER.

What's F like on these birds? I gather probably not as good as A380.

I haven't flown SQ for 6 years, and only ever in Y. Since then I've flown international J on QF, CX, AY, FJ, MH, and QR. Will SQ top them all?

I know Suites is better than SQ F, but there don't seem to be Suites offered ex MEL anymore - should I look to redeem ex SYD (if they still offer them there)?

Cruiser is definitely the guru on SQ F and Suites.
I like the suites for the more comfy bed. For the rest of the service; wine, food, space etc there is little to choose - all are fantastic. Have been on 777 but on 777-300ER. If it isn't too much trouble to get to Sydney (for A380) then it's worth the effort - just to say you have been there!
Enjoy

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Just a few random thoughts:

F on 77WN is significant step up from F on 773 or 77W - YES it's newer so should be better - seats are softer and better to actually sit in than old F - layout of controls / storage pockets etc significantly better

F cabin in 77W and 77WN there are no overhead bins - what were SQ thinking. Crew will always tell you that customers told them they would prefer their carry on to be under foot rest in front of them rather than in OH bins - BAH HUMBUG - if you are over 6ft tall and you recline seat at all without using footrest then your feet constantly contact carry on in front of you - PITA! I would like to know who they sampled! Open curtains rear F on 77W and 77WN and J has OH bins - ridiculous.

F cabin on 773 is bigger than 77W and 77WN - still 8 seats but extra space to front and rear cabin - you can actually walk around behind 2C / 2D to get from left aisle to right aisle - but toilets on 77W and 77WN better than old toilets on 773 - but all toilets on all 3 are less than huge.

IMHO - R on 380 just far superior product. Toilets are much larger for changing etc - toilet behind A Suites bigger than toilet behind F Suites. You can definitely cocoon yourself in R by closing doors / window slides if you like - or can keep them open entire journey - but still very limited view of rest of cabin in R - I love the openness of F as I am worlds biggest sticky beak - but sheer quality of R experience overcomes this. Old R seat softer to sit on than new R - beds same - big and comfortable - TV in R not huge for distance it is from you - unless 20 / 20 vision then make sure you have your specs with you.

Service in R / F - I just cannot differentiate in quality or attentiveness of service. in F 3 crew incl IFS to 8 seats / in R 4 crew incl IFS to 12 Suites - no matter which cabin I enter - R of F - first thing I ever do is comment to the female crew member who greets me at door 'My god - they have the gorgeous girls on crew today' - then turn to a male crew member and say 'Oh and the most handsome male crew members also' - funny thing - I never ever have to wait for attention - everybody loves a compliment and 99% of time they respond accordingly.

Again above are my observations and opinions - others may have different views - hopefully that is the case - 'No good if we all liked the same girl'?

 

[clazman]

Any differences with their IFE?

 

[bbqwer]

Am looking at a MEL-SIN-HKG F redemption and for the dates and times that suit with work schedule it's on SQ238/SQ2 using a 777 and then a 777-300ER.

What's F like on these birds? I gather probably not as good as A380.

I haven't flown SQ for 6 years, and only ever in Y. Since then I've flown international J on QF, CX, AY, FJ, MH, and QR. Will SQ top them all?

I know Suites is better than SQ F, but there don't seem to be Suites offered ex MEL anymore - should I look to redeem ex SYD (if they still offer them there)?

Somehow I prefer F on 300ER than A380 Suites. I feel 300ER seats more enjoyable. may be it just me

 

[MEL_Traveller]

SQ's suites are pretty good... especially 3A/K for solo, and the middle ones if flying with someone. That's kind of fun. But I think OZ's suites are even better... the bed is longer, and the TV is a whopping 32 inches... (not sure why SQ still claims to have the largest TV in the sky... it's not true).

The SQ 773 first class is weird. I have to sleep on the diagonal to fit... and yet they have mountains of room in front and behind the rows which they could have used to increase pitch. Strange decision.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

The SQ 773 first class is weird. I have to sleep on the diagonal to fit... and yet they have mountains of room in front and behind the rows which they could have used to increase pitch. Strange decision.

Simply standardisation of F hard product - 773 / 77W identical product - zero extra space in front row 1 / behind row 2 on 77W.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Simply standardisation of F hard product - 773 / 77W identical product - zero extra space in front row 1 / behind row 2 on 77W.

I mean the original decision to configure the seats in that way on the 773. Sure the cabin was spacious... but the seats not so much. (The 773s were spacious with 18F, but then we went down to 8F and it felt less so.)

 

[Cruiser Elite]

I mean the original decision to configure the seats in that way on the 773. Sure the cabin was spacious... but the seats not so much.

MEL I fully understand what you mean and I agree the space in front / behind the rows seems just a waste. But clearly SQ just decided 1 standard F across the 777's rather than refitting the 773 with a stretched F then the new 77W with a trimmed down shorter version.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

MEL I fully understand what you mean and I agree the space in front / behind the rows seems just a waste. But clearly SQ just decided 1 standard F across the 777's rather than refitting the 773 with a stretched F then the new 77W with a trimmed down shorter version.

Oh. I see what you mean. Yeah - I haven't flown on a 77W. If you're gonna squeeze that many seats though, I'd prefer the CX model.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Oh. I see what you mean. Yeah - I haven't flown on a 77W. If you're gonna squeeze that meany seats though, I'd prefer the CX model.

But no CX F out of Oz so difficult to prefer that over SQ F out of Oz. No CX F into PVG or PEK either is there?

78K KF pts o/w on SQ F to/fro PEK/PVG - 70K AM pts for CX J Oz to/fro PEK/PVG - and they stick you on one of those coughpy KA flts - you still prefer CX over SQ? Not for this this little black duck!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

But no CX F out of Oz so difficult to prefer that over SQ F out of Oz. No CX F into PVG or PEK either is there?

76K KF pts o/w on SQ F to/fro PEK/PVG - 70K AM pts for CX J Oz to/fro PEK/PVG - and they stick you on one of those coughpy KA flts - you still prefer CX over SQ? Not for this this little black duck!

I was speaking more generally that I prefer the CX 77W configuration to that of SQ. Better seating IMO for both business and first class.

As for the specifics for China.. indeed there are up to 8 daily KA/CX HKG-PEK flights with F, including 2 CX 77Ws. To PVG KA offers F on a couple flights a day.

Prior to QF pulling out of HKG, PVG-HKG-SYD was possible all in F with just a couple hours transit time in HKG. Now I only take Air China (for reasons outlined in other threads).

AA was significantly cheaper at just 45K for the through flight China-HKG-Australia.

 

[Isochronous]

I booked SQ238 on the 773 leaving at 1030am. Did someone say that this is "diagonal" - I.e. Not fully flat?!?

Anyway, since the choice is same day departure on 1030 from MEL or overnight on the 0005 on the 773ER, I'm tempted to switch to use the flight to sleep and go into town in Singapore for the day before taking the 6pm SIN-HKG.

If the hard product is better on the ER that would basically swing me. Can I change online for free or do I need to call?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I booked SQ238 on the 773 leaving at 1030am. Did someone say that this is "diagonal" - I.e. Not fully flat?!?

Anyway, since the choice is same day departure on 1030 from MEL or overnight on the 0005 on the 773ER, I'm tempted to switch to use the flight to sleep and go into town in Singapore for the day before taking the 6pm SIN-HKG.

If the hard product is better on the ER that would basically swing me. Can I change online for free or do I need to call?

'Diagonal' in the sense that the shape of the seat is a small square, and unless you are very short, you need to lie across the seat in a diagonal fashion to stretch out. The bed itself is full flat.

 

[TomVexille]

F cabin in 77W and 77WN there are no overhead bins - what were SQ thinking. Crew will always tell you that customers told them they would prefer their carry on to be under foot rest in front of them rather than in OH bins - BAH HUMBUG - if you are over 6ft tall and you recline seat at all without using footrest then your feet constantly contact carry on in front of you - PITA! I would like to know who they sampled! Open curtains rear F on 77W and 77WN and J has OH bins - ridiculous.

They sampled the people who were too short to reach the overhead.

I booked SQ238 on the 773 leaving at 1030am. Did someone say that this is "diagonal" - I.e. Not fully flat?!?

Flat I believe. Just that you sleep diagonally across the seat.