Emirates Orders 40 Boeing 787-10

[Ansett]

Emirates makes huge $15bn order for Boeing 'Dreamliners' as US firm leaves Airbus in its wake

What concerns me here is the statement Further down about 11 abreast on the A380.

 

[Must...Fly!]

11-abreast scares me, but I'm open to seeing what the cabin would look like. Not that I'd be caught dead in the middle of the plane, but being in the middle of that would be no worse than an A seat currently, at least in theory.

 

[UP4014]

If they order a few more 380's is that to replace some or increase the number......how old are they now?

 

[Flying Fox]

Sounds like this order really caught Airbus by surprise -

Emirates' Boeing 787 Dreamliner deal is a nightmare for Airbus

I'm also surprised at the relative list prices of A380 vs B787-10

B787-10 x40 = $15.1B USD
A380 x36 = $15.7B USD

 

[TomVexille]

Sounds like this order really caught Airbus by surprise -

Emirates' Boeing 787 Dreamliner deal is a nightmare for Airbus

I'm also surprised at the relative list prices of A380 vs B787-10

B787-10 x40 = $15.1B USD
A380 x36 = $15.7B USD

That almost reads as a bargaining ploy from EK to push Airbus for a bigger discount

 

[Flying Fox]

I wonder how much if anything at all EK was penalised by Airbus for cancelling the 70x A350-900 & A350-1000 order?

Emirates orders Boeing 787-10 | Australian Aviation

 

[Strategic Aviation]

11-abreast scares me, but I'm open to seeing what the cabin would look like.

Airbus A380 gets 11-across economy seating option - Australian Business Traveller

Airbus reveals A380 'Budget Economy' seating, 11-across squeeze - Australian Business Traveller

 

[Must...Fly!]

Despite all the Airbus media chest beating no one has actually installed it as of yet though, have they?

 

[Flying Fox]

Airbus A380 gets 11-across economy seating option - Australian Business Traveller

Airbus reveals A380 'Budget Economy' seating, 11-across squeeze - Australian Business Traveller

Oh my! That 'A' seat looks terrible. Everyone is going to have to be very friendly with their neighbour.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Oh my! That 'A' seat looks terrible. Everyone is going to have to be very friendly with their neighbour.

As a 6'5" individual with very long legs who almost always is in Y....I say no to that!

The first thing I think of is DVT actually...looks very uncomfortable.

 

[juddles]

I love the 787 - I am not talking the layouts the airlines put in - I am talking the plane itself. I have little doubt that in time it will be one of the most succesful designs in aviation history. It will reach 10,000 airframes.

 

[Himeno]

I love the 787 - I am not talking the layouts the airlines put in - I am talking the plane itself. I have little doubt that in time it will be one of the most succesful designs in aviation history. It will reach 10,000 airframes.

Even with all the delays and problems, they did have a lot of them delivered very quickly.
A little over 6 years in service now, and just over 600 delivered.

 

[UP4014]

As a 6'5" individual with very long legs who almost always is in Y....I say no to that!

The first thing I think of is DVT actually...looks very uncomfortable.

Likewise, all we can do is vote with our wallets and avoid airlines who think this is a good choice...

 

[Strategic Aviation]

Despite all the Airbus media chest beating no one has actually installed it as of yet though, have they?

No. Emirates was initially behind the idea of an 11-abreast economy section as part of its drive to make the existing A380 fleet more efficient, but then ruled out 11 abreast seating.

It is inaccurate to say Airbus engaged in media chest beating. In fact, it came uncomfortably soon after Airbus revealed new research into the impact seat width makes to levels of passenger comfort on board long haul economy flights and called on the aviation industry to set a minimum standard of 18 inches (45.72cm).

They were simply responding to the request of their largest and most important A380 customer.

 

[moa999]

I think EK has been flip-flopping.
They want improvements and they want the line to stay open, but don't want to pay.

Reality is Airbus won't spend big money (if the line stays open) until their is a new engine available (likely an improvement on the Trent 1000/XWB used on 787/350) due to the interaction of the wing/engine for efficiencies.

Given the over-engineering of the wing, the lack of weight savings materials in the 787/350, and the older engine (Trent 900/EA product) there are likely plenty of efficiency gains, but it's a big and expensive job.

 

[Isochronous]

Shudder the thought at 11 across!