Effective MAR1 2008: BA flights will cease to earn elite status bonus

[Keith009]

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(Effective March 1, 2008, British Airways flights no longer earn elite status bonus miles.)

 

[drron]

What a b*****.Have just booked my BA flights as part of DONE4 next year.

 

[Keith009]

Try switching to the codeshare flight numbers if you can? (if those flights carry codes of oneworld partners which attract elite status bonus, such as JSA flights)

 

[simongr]

Well that sucks completely!

Perhaps this is a forerunner to wider changes? Elite bonuses only on the home airline?

The downside for me is that there are few AA codeshares on the routes I would fly BA - LHR-SYD. I guess one could fly on the QF codeshare?

I am going to have to rework my damn spreadsheet now!

 

[NM]

I originally thought it strange that when JL joined OneWorld that AA retained them as not earning status bonus while all other OneWorld airlines did earn status bonus. So now its going to be both JL and BA, so I wonder if any others will follow?

So long as they retain QF and CX I will be happy. My last few DONE4s have been all QF/AA/CX flights except for one BA flight each time, and that one is available as a QF codeshare if I want. But since its such a short flight, the loss of the status bonus will not be great.

 

[Dave Noble]

The downside for me is that there are few AA codeshares on the routes I would fly BA - LHR-SYD. I guess one could fly on the QF codeshare?

Or you could fly CX

Dave

 

[Febs]

Occurrences like this are the reason I credit to the airline I fly most with (ie: QFF). It mightn't be the most "cost effective" way of earning points, but it's the safest IMO.

Cheers,
- Febs.

 

[Keith009]

I originally thought it strange that when JL joined OneWorld that AA retained them as not earning status bonus while all other OneWorld airlines did earn status bonus. So now its going to be both JL and BA, so I wonder if any others will follow?

MA doesn't attract the bonus either.

Or you could fly CX

Or QF (metal).

 

[sparoy]

To avoid missing elite status bonus I'm thinking of changing BA LHR-SYD to QF code share or skip LHR altogether and do CX FCO-HKG-SYD instead (on my DONE4)

How's CX's new flat bed on compared with BA's new club world?
Only FCO-HKG will be on 744.

 

[SeaWolf]

I can't help but wonder if this will ripple out to other airlines as well.

 

[vt01]

There I was planning my DONE4 and checking out flights and AA earning on the AA website when I came across the changes to earning on BA flights .
Ahhhhh - This type of restriction was one of the reasons I left QFF and joined AA!
So I searched AFF and of course found a thread on it.. So I thought I'd resurrect this thread rather than start a new one...
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So I started thinking about how I was going to circumvent this new restriction as I had in mind 4 BA flights - LHR-MCT-LHR-FCO-LHR.

Using the AA timetable I found that AA does do codeshare on the LHR-MCT route (via AUH) but under a single flight number. As I am coming across from JFK on an AA flight I assume I can also book the codeshare (AA6413) down to MCT and AA6412 back to LHR. There is also an AA codeshare to FCO and back.

My ticket will be issued by QF. Will I be able to book the AA codeshares? If not, would getting my ticket reissued in the US by AA then allow me to change flights to the AA codeshares?

thx

 

[NM]

There I was planning my DONE4 and checking out flights and AA earning on the AA website when I came across the changes to earning on BA flights .
Ahhhhh - This type of restriction was one of the reasons I left QFF and joined AA!
So I searched AFF and of course found a thread on it.. So I thought I'd resurrect this thread rather than start a new one...

Thanks for the reminder

My ticket will be issued by QF. Will I be able to book the AA codeshares? If not, would getting my ticket reissued in the US by AA then allow me to change flights to the AA codeshares?

Tere is no technical reason QF cannot book the AA codeshares for you. I have had QF book an AA codeshare on a CX flight before. But as several people have found, QF are not always the most helpful or knowledgeable when it comes to knowing, understanding and interpreting fare rules. So be ready to need to push them hard to get it done. It would probably be more difficult if trying to get an AA codeshare on a QF flight when issuing with Qantas, even though the fares permit it.

 

[Evan]

Its is not good for me, i do a lot of BA flights. I guess i will just look for alternatives where they exist but some i fly like LHR-PVG there is no code shares.

I also wonder if there will be any changes to other parts of the relationships, eg QP access for QP members who are now OW saphire/emerald.

I guess we just wait and see.

vt01: should be no problems booking code shares, just need to convince QF to do it, but since they have no interest in those flights, ie no QF metal service on these routes i would not expect as many issues as if you were to want to book a non QF codeshare on a route they fly but i am yet to do it myself.

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[vt01]

Thanks for the reminder

Tere is no technical reason QF cannot book the AA codeshares for you. I have had QF book an AA codeshare on a CX flight before. But as several people have found, QF are not always the most helpful or knowledgeable when it comes to knowing, understanding and interpreting fare rules. So be ready to need to push them hard to get it done. It would probably be more difficult if trying to get an AA codeshare on a QF flight when issuing with Qantas, even though the fares permit it.

Thanks NM. The other difficulty is I am booking through AMEX and we use email. The people we email are in India and have little or no knowledge of DONE4. They queried my backtracking and passing through the same point and also the 4 segments when I return to Aus. So I gave them the address of the oneworld itinerary planner so they could at least check out the majority of my trip. Although the planner doesn't handle the final 4 segments in Aus.

Its is not good for me, i do a lot of BA flights. I guess i will just look for alternatives where they exist but some i fly like LHR-PVG there is no code shares.

I also wonder if there will be any changes to other parts of the relationships, eg QP access for QP members who are now OW saphire/emerald.

I guess we just wait and see.

Bummer.. That was one of the segments on my last DONE4. Lets hope this isn't the beginning of the end of oneworld as we know it - for point earning. I doubt they would break up the alliance but as was suggested earlier they may only deliver the extra bonus points when travelling on your own FF programme airline.

 

[simongr]

Thanks for the reminder on this - I was planning to use part of my upcoming CircleAsia to retain QF SG but now think I might save that for my BA based lhr-lca-lhr-hkg.

 

[rocket]

Maybe this is a dumb question - does this effect the earning of status credits and also miles, or just miles?

 

[NM]

Maybe this is a dumb question - does this effect the earning of status credits and also miles, or just miles?

This only applies to AAdvantage. AA members will no longer earn the status bonus (50% for Gold, 100% for Plat and Exec Plat). AA does not have status credits.