Dual HK/Au citizen : OK to travel to HK with 3 months until expiry

[albatross710]

One of the fun things that happens as a frequent traveller is that friends come to us with fairly interesting travel conundrums. MOst I can handle but this immigration one I'd like to gain some experience from more knowledgeable travelers.


The 12 year old daughter of some new Australians has a long validity on her HKsar passport. She has three months to run on her current Australian passport. Her and her family live in Australia. The daughter last entered Australia on her Australian passport. No entry stamp or Au visa in the HKsar passport.

The family will fly out to HK on 10 Jan, returning 24 Jan, well within the validity of the daughter's Au passport.

Are there any likely issues with this?

My thoughts are:

a) Airline: Needs to determine that the person they carry can enter HK. This is possible as daughter will enter HK on HKsar.

b) Australia Immigration going out: No issues, the daughter exits on Au passport.

c) Entering HK: No issue, enter on HKsar

d) Returning home: Enter on Au passport....2 months to spare before expiry.

Does anyone have direct experience with this kind of issue?

Alby

 

[trippin_the_rift]

Why not use HK passport to exit Australia? She is a citizen of both so it shouldn't matter which is used. My daughter is dual HK/AU and the limited advice I've been given is that it doesn't matter which because she will have ROA in both countries.

 

[kelvedon]

Why not use HK passport to exit Australia? She is a citizen of both so it shouldn't matter which is used. My daughter is dual HK/AU and the limited advice I've been given is that it doesn't matter which because she will have ROA in both countries.

If she uses her HK passport to exit AUS wouldn't immigration want to see her Australian passport to know how she got in?

 

[Austman]

I think all should be OK.

Airline check-in will take any passport that's valid for entry at the destination. A passport only needs to be valid (just 1 day is enough) when entering the country that issued it. It's the other passports that might need a visa or a minimum length of validity.

If you are Australian and try to leave Australia on another passport it will cause an event at passport control. I've done it, but I needed to go to an interview room and explain why I wasn't using my Australian passport. I had a good reason and was allowed out.

 

[andye]

I understood that you were obliged to exit Australia on your Australian passport if you have one

 

[Austman]

I understood that you were obliged to exit Australia on your Australian passport if you have one

I have managed to exit with another passport. But I had to explain why. In my case it was because my Australian passport had not yet been returned from an embassy where I was obtaining a visa. I was allowed to leave. And my Australian passport (complete with the visa) was later sent by registered post to me while I was still abroad - so I returned back to Australia with it.

 

[madrooster]

One of the fun things that happens as a frequent traveller is that friends come to us with fairly interesting travel conundrums. MOst I can handle but this immigration one I'd like to gain some experience from more knowledgeable travelers.


The 12 year old daughter of some new Australians has a long validity on her HKsar passport. She has three months to run on her current Australian passport. Her and her family live in Australia. The daughter last entered Australia on her Australian passport. No entry stamp or Au visa in the HKsar passport.

The family will fly out to HK on 10 Jan, returning 24 Jan, well within the validity of the daughter's Au passport.

Are there any likely issues with this?

My thoughts are:

a) Airline: Needs to determine that the person they carry can enter HK. This is possible as daughter will enter HK on HKsar.

b) Australia Immigration going out: No issues, the daughter exits on Au passport.

c) Entering HK: No issue, enter on HKsar

d) Returning home: Enter on Au passport....2 months to spare before expiry.

Does anyone have direct experience with this kind of issue?

Alby

No issues with your thoughts at all. A HK ID card or HKSAR passport at check in is sufficient to prove right of entry to HK.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

One of the fun things that happens as a frequent traveller is that friends come to us with fairly interesting travel conundrums. MOst I can handle but this immigration one I'd like to gain some experience from more knowledgeable travelers.

The 12 year old daughter of some new Australians has a long validity on her HKsar passport. She has three months to run on her current Australian passport. Her and her family live in Australia. The daughter last entered Australia on her Australian passport. No entry stamp or Au visa in the HKsar passport.

The family will fly out to HK on 10 Jan, returning 24 Jan, well within the validity of the daughter's Au passport.

Are there any likely issues with this?

My thoughts are:

a) Airline: Needs to determine that the person they carry can enter HK. This is possible as daughter will enter HK on HKsar.

b) Australia Immigration going out: No issues, the daughter exits on Au passport.

c) Entering HK: No issue, enter on HKsar

d) Returning home: Enter on Au passport....2 months to spare before expiry.

Does anyone have direct experience with this kind of issue?

Alby

Give AU Customs the Aussie passport when you both depart and arrive from Ausralia. Give HK Customs the HK SAR passport on arrival and departure.

The info below from Expert Flyer states than AU passports need only be valid for one month on arrival in HKG so even if she entered HK on her AU passport (& didn't even hold HK SAR residence) she would be okay provided she still had at least one month validity of the AU passport

The HK SAR passport just has to be valid as there is no min validity required when you hold a passport for the same country you are entering in this case HKG.

Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Visa, Health & Passport:






Information as of  21DEC15 / 2128 UTC
National Australia (AU)         /Embarkation Australia (AU)
Destination Hong Kong (SAR China) (HK)
Hong Kong (SAR China) (HK)


Passport required.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry must be
valid for a minimum of 1 month beyond the period of intended
stay.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued by
Hong Kong (SAR China) must be valid on arrival.
Passport Exemptions:
- Passengers with a Hong Kong (SAR China) Permanent Identity
Card.
- Passengers with an emergency or temporary passport.


Visa required, except for Nationals of Australia for a maximum
stay of 3 months.
Visa required, except for Passengers with a Hong Kong (SAR
China) Permanent Identity Card or a travel document issued by
Hong Kong (SAR China) with "Holder's eligibility for Hong Kong
(SAR China) Permanent Identity Card verified .
Visa required, except for Passengers with an APEC Business
valid for travel to HKG traveling
on business.
Additional Information:
- Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
cover their stay and documents required for their next
destination.
Warning:
- Passport number and nationality must match those stated on
the APEC Business Travel Card (ABTC).
- Visitors not holding return/onward ticket could be refused
entry.


Hong Kong (SAR China) (HK)


Vaccinations not required.


- EUROPEAN UNION: NATIONALS OF TONGA,
COLOMBIA AND PALAU

 

[ozbeachbabe]

The timatic passport/visa enquiry this time I added the fact the the AU passport holder had HK SAR residence so there is no longer the requirement that the AU passport needs at least one month validity - it just has to be valid.

Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Visa, Health & Passport:






Information as of  21DEC15 / 2134 UTC
National Australia (AU)
[B]Residence Hong Kong (SAR China) (HK)[/B]
Embarkation Australia (AU)
Destination Hong Kong (SAR China) (HK)
Hong Kong (SAR China) (HK)


Passport required.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued by
Hong Kong (SAR China) must be valid on arrival.
[B]- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to[/B]
[B]residents of Hong Kong (SAR China) must be valid on arrival.[/B]


Passport Exemptions:
- Passengers with a Hong Kong (SAR China) Permanent Identity
Card.
- Passengers with a Hong Kong (SAR China) "Document of
Identity for Visa Purposes .
- Passengers with an emergency or temporary passport.


Visa required, except for Passengers with a Re-entry Permit
issued by Hong Kong.
Visa required, except for Passengers with a Hong Kong (SAR
China) Permanent Identity Card or a travel document issued by
Hong Kong (SAR China) with "Holder's eligibility for Hong Kong
(SAR China) Permanent Identity Card verified .
Visa required, except for Passengers with a Hong Kong (SAR
China)  Document of Identity for Visa Purposes  with:


Warning:
- Passport number and nationality must match those stated on
the APEC Business Travel Card (ABTC).


Hong Kong (SAR China) (HK)


Vaccinations not required.


- EUROPEAN UNION: NATIONALS OF TONGA,
COLOMBIA AND PALAU

 

[kamchatsky]

That should be fine. I am dual HK/Australian citizen and there has been no problems. Since she is 12, she should have HK Children ID card (age 11-17):

Leaving oz: Australian passport
enter HK: HK Children ID card
leaving HK: HK Children ID card
Entering oz: Australian passport (the customs would tell you that your passport is expiring but there is no way they won't let you in).

Now I strongly suggest she get Mainland Travel Permit as well if not already done so. Visa free travel in China for 10 years for each issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_Travel_Permit_for_Hong_Kong_and_Macao_Residents

香港中國旅行社–港澳居民來往內地通行證

I have one myself.

 

[albatross710]

Thanks kamchatsky & ozbeachbabe for the input.

Ozbeachbabe is that a standard expertflyer functionality? I haven't seen it before.

 

[tomlee1986]

I think it should be okay but best to ask Australian passport office

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Ozbeachbabe is that a standard expertflyer functionality? I haven't seen it before.

I pay the annual $99.00 subscription so not sure if Timatic info comes with the free version. Have a look at the index on the home page on the left hand side of the page. I can see the following topics:

Awards & upgrades
Flight availability
Flight timetables
Flight status
Flight details
Seat Map
Fare information
Travel information

When you select 'travel information' you then get several tabs with options to click and I select the last one 'visas health & passport.'

I think it should be okay but best to ask Australian passport office

The validity required on an Australian Passport to enter HKG has nothing to do with the AU P/P office as it's up to immigration at the destination country. All Australia CBP care is that your passport is valid to depart Australia. It's up to the airline checkin staff to ensure you have the required validity on your AU passport or another document such as the HK SAR resident card that will allow you entry into HKG.