COVID-19 and Tennis

[Saab34]

I fail to see how a Judge can now wave him on in.

Looks like another VISA has just been canceled according to the ABC

 

[Pushka]

I fail to see how a Judge can now wave him on in.

Depends if they consider he was misled by TA and that is grounds to let him in. Clearly he and everyone else was misled by TA.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Depends if they consider he was misled by TA and that is grounds to let him in.

They are not a government organisation. There is ample proof of that after last year's carefully framed media releases to justify holding the tournament in 2021.

It hardly amounts to incitement.

He could perhaps have a civil case against TA for costs, lost income, damaged reputation etc?

 

[Pushka]

They are not a government organisation. There is ample proof of that after last year's carefully framed media releases to justify holding the tournament in 2021.

It hardly amounts to incitement.

He could perhaps have a civil case against TA for costs, lost income, damaged reputation etc?

I did use 'if. Agree that TA is screwed. Jane Hrdlicka (?) is chair of the board. Shame on them. They've tried to ambush players and the Govt.

 

[ayebee]

Tennis Oz, and probably Djoker (although I concede he may have been mislead by said tennis Oz) thought they would be OK playing the DYKWIA card, and seems they are losing badly.

After he loses the court case, I wonder if he will record a "pretend" mea culpa video like Depp & Amber to try and get back in the good books for next time ??

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

What a shock, TA stuffed up again.
Should be the end of Tilley

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1479387624141770753

Ah.....there’s the smokescreen.

Tiley will probably survive, some pleb staffer not so lucky.

 

[Saab34]

Be interesting to see what the Novak legal team do now. Potentially might be easier to shoot down TA tomorrow and call it a day, head back.

Novak could save some face here, TA let us down, we are disappointed blah blah blah, we will head home, see you next year.

Not overly confident a court will side with a private mob due to poor communication and grant entry.

 

[MARTINE]

Be interesting to see what the Novak legal team do now. Potentially might be easier to shoot down TA tomorrow and call it a day, head back.

Novak could save some face here, TA let us down, we are disappointed blah blah blah, we will head home, see you next year.

Not overly confident a court will side with a private mob due to poor communication and grant entry.

Agree
It also prevents the (very real) possibility of revoked visas and being banned from here for 3 years…..and having to declare this travelling elsewhere … or has that ship already sailed given his current visa has been revoked (already)?

 

[tgh]

So will there now be a face saving move in this chess game ?
TA ..mea culpa..perhaps including a sacrificial offering
Joko.. I was conned
Feds.. yeah so we offer compensation.. you can stay and play
Ta wins …they could not be that clever surely ???

 

[Pushka]

Another one now.
The ABC can reveal Renata Voráčová, who has already played in a warm-up tournament in Melbourne, was detained by Australian Border Force officials yesterday and taken to the Park Hotel in Carlton.

 

[MARTINE]

Another one now.
The ABC can reveal Renata Voráčová, who has already played in a warm-up tournament in Melbourne, was detained by Australian Border Force officials yesterday and taken to the Park Hotel in Carlton.

Mixed doubles team now

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So will there now be a face saving move in this chess game ?
TA ..mea culpa..perhaps including a sacrificial offering
Joko.. I was conned
Feds.. yeah so we offer compensation.. you can stay and play
Ta wins …they could not be that clever surely ???

 

[Saab34]

Feds.. yeah so we offer compensation.. you can stay and play

Federal Libs are ruthless when it comes to this stuff. Federal Labor probably would wave him in. These guys no chance.

 

[drron]

Another bit of evidence fro twitter.

 

[RooFlyer]

If TA misled its prospective players as to entry requirements, and caused said players to attempt to enter Australia with the wrong 'paperwork', that does not change the fact that the players tried to enter with the wrong paperwork and therefore can be refused entry.

So:

So will there now be a face saving move in this chess game ?
TA ..mea culpa..perhaps including a sacrificial offering
Joko.. I was conned
Feds.. yeah so we offer compensation.. you can stay and play
Ta wins …they could not be that clever surely ???

Nah.

Meanwhile, in other news, from The Oz, on-line, in part:

Novak Djokovic demanded access to his chef and a tennis court while in immigration custody in Melbourne as the Serbian government rallied to his side, urging that he be moved to accommodation “befitting the best sportsman” on the planet.

But the world No.1, detained since his visa was cancelled for breaching Covid vaccination rules, will have to make do with the $109-a-night Park Hotel in Carlton, where he is cooling his heels alongside remanded asylum-seekers who rate the in-house fare as “maggoty bullshit”. Australian Border Force officials flatly rejected Djokovic’s requests, explaining there would be no special treatment. Gluten intolerant and fastidious about his diet, the lanky 34-year-old had wanted his personal chef to prepare all meals.

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He needed to train for the Australian Open, he explained, because there was still a chance he could take his place when the tournament starts on Monday week. Djokovic asked to be transferred to the luxurious rented home with a tennis court that was to have been his base. He would pay for private guards.

The answer was still no.

 

[RooFlyer]

Also various bits from the Oz on-line (paywalled, so no link useful):

An information sheet was emailed by TA to the Association of Tennis Professionals early last month and then passed on to the world’s top players. It shows TA informed players there was a two-step process to follow so they could play in the Australian Open without being vaccinated.

The advice included a clause whereby players needed to prove they had contracted the virus in the past six months. This is presumed to be the basis for Djokovic’s exemption, although it was withdrawn when he arrived.
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The problem is that the information sent to the ATP and the players was incorrect, and TA had already been told that.

Dated December 7, 2021, the email was sent after the federal government had already notified TA in writing in November that a prior infection did not meet the requirements for quarantine-free travel to Australia.

The timing is critical because it points the blame for the whole fiasco at TA, and backs up claims by acting Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan that the Andrews government was not told by TA that the commonwealth had warned them prior Covid infection was not a genuine medical exemption.

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Critically, the document also contained what it said was an outline of valid reasons for a temporary medical exemption, including the following, which has since been found to be different to the requirements for quarantine-free arrival into Australia: “Recent PCR-confirmed Covid-19 infection (after 31 July 2021), where vaccination can be deferred until six months after the infection. If you fall into this category, please provide laboratory PCR result from the first positive test, antibody levels if available and evidence of any previous or subsequent vaccinations if relevant,” the letter stated.

“The current ATAGI guidance for those who have had a recent Covid infection is to be vaccinated once you have recovered from the acute illness.

“It may also assist the independent panel if you can provide a letter from your doctor or public health authority as to why you have not received a full dose of an approved vaccination following Covid-19 infection.”

The document also included a note claiming the information contained in it was all correct.

 

[prozac]

Also various bits from the Oz on-line (paywalled, so no link useful):

An information sheet was emailed by TA to the Association of Tennis Professionals early last month and then passed on to the world’s top players. It shows TA informed players there was a two-step process to follow so they could play in the Australian Open without being vaccinated.

The advice included a clause whereby players needed to prove they had contracted the virus in the past six months. This is presumed to be the basis for Djokovic’s exemption, although it was withdrawn when he arrived.
...

The problem is that the information sent to the ATP and the players was incorrect, and TA had already been told that.

Dated December 7, 2021, the email was sent after the federal government had already notified TA in writing in November that a prior infection did not meet the requirements for quarantine-free travel to Australia.

The timing is critical because it points the blame for the whole fiasco at TA, and backs up claims by acting Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan that the Andrews government was not told by TA that the commonwealth had warned them prior Covid infection was not a genuine medical exemption.

...
...

Critically, the document also contained what it said was an outline of valid reasons for a temporary medical exemption, including the following, which has since been found to be different to the requirements for quarantine-free arrival into Australia: “Recent PCR-confirmed Covid-19 infection (after 31 July 2021), where vaccination can be deferred until six months after the infection. If you fall into this category, please provide laboratory PCR result from the first positive test, antibody levels if available and evidence of any previous or subsequent vaccinations if relevant,” the letter stated.

“The current ATAGI guidance for those who have had a recent Covid infection is to be vaccinated once you have recovered from the acute illness.

“It may also assist the independent panel if you can provide a letter from your doctor or public health authority as to why you have not received a full dose of an approved vaccination following Covid-19 infection.”

The document also included a note claiming the information contained in it was all correct.

Caveat Emptor. Novax is a grown-up. He should have checked his facts.

TA is not the arbiter of entry to Australia, that would be the Australian government. Whatever TA has told tennis "stars" bears no weight in court and cannot affect the decision of the judge who will base his decision on the relevant regulations, not some scheme dreamed up by some no-knowledge dip-cough at TA.

If these unvaxed stars were not trying to find a loophole then they wouldn't get burnt. It is an unfortunate situation for Novax, but rules is rules.

 

[Must...Fly!]

TA has told tennis "stars" bears no weight in court

Nor should it. Such a decision to allow him in would open a Pandora's box of a precedent where anyone refused entry could appeal on the grounds that their prospective employer/association/invitee "guaranteed" them entry.

Due process can take its course, he can enjoy the Park Hotel (LOL) and no doubt the F trip back on EK to Dubai...

 

[Spongbob]

[...] Pandora's box [...]

With 60,000 new cases a day, this box is open regardless of visa requirements.

 

[jakeseven7]

Well, if they make the court case take another 12 days or so, he'd be welcome.

I’m more than happy if he makes it out of quarantine to present the grand slam winners their trophies, would be lovely

 

[Must...Fly!]

With 60,000 new cases a day, this box is open regardless of visa requirements.

This has nothing to do with covid...