Checked Baggage on Economy Classic Reward ORD-LAX-BNE

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I'm hoping someone might be able to help me with this situation. For the first time in more than a decade I finally snagged some award flights that I thought were worthwhile taking up. The circumstances were quite specific, a one-way journey starting in Chicago, returning to Brisbane. The award flights happened to be available, on the required departure day, and compared to what was available as a paid ticket were much better than any paid fares available on any carrier with a convenient route/connections. Other reward flights, when they were available, were four flights instead of two, three connections instead of one and an extra 6-7 hours of travel time. When I saw this routing pop up after a few days of searching, I grabbed it and as a bonus it was fewer points and less tax. Works out at a couple of cents per point compared to the paid options. That's good enough for me. So before we start, we are ahead as far as I'm concerned. The question is more about what hassle I might have at check-in, is it worth asking a question at check-in, and what documentation I should have available to expedite the process.

Firstly, we have no status (that is long gone as I only really travel for leisure now). Secondly, I've searched this forum and others and I can't find an exact match to my circumstances. Most deal with a trip in the opposite direction (Aus to USA with an onward domestic connection), or are pure domestic (USA to USA), or involve at least some status, not my case. I also have reviewed the AA and Qantas websites, but I don't have a degree in legal Swahili and the conclusion I came to is that they can do whatever they want to do on the day and there will be some clause they can point to. So I'm hoping our community here can provide more definitive answers and guidance!

So the basic facts:
  1. 2 passengers
  2. A single Booking reference with the two flights on it
  3. Booking search request was for one-way ORD-BNE, not a multicity request. We just selected the routing offered as a package
  4. First flight ORD-LAX has an AA flight number and is in booking class T (same flight has a Qantas codeshare flight number, but that combination wasn't offered in the classic reward)
  5. Connection time in LAX of a couple of hours
  6. Second flight is QF16 LAX-BNE
The basic question is "WIll I have to pay AUD 160 for 1 bag per passenger (USD55 x 2) at Chicago check-in, or do we get a bag each free?"

All through the "purchase process" I screen shotted/PDF'ed each step of the process. All through the process the indication seems to be that we get a bag each on the AA segment, but it doesn't say what weight. There seems to be some question however if a bag is included on the domestic flight. I have also tried the "manage booking" on the AA website using the AA booking reference and it doesn't list any baggage details, it just has a "-" . When I hit the "purchase bags" option I get a message "you can only buy ADDITIONAL bags at the airport" (emphasis mine). A bit ambiguous.

Now I don't intend to have a big argument at check-in, It's just not worth it, but if asked to pay I am willing to politely say "I understand your system is saying we have to pay, but could you please ask a supervisor to double-check and here is the supporting documentation" if I have some grounds to do so.

So, are we entitled to a bag each on ORD-LAX in our circumstances? If so, and we are refused, what documentation should we have ready?

As a side question, would the checked baggage entitlement (free or paid) be 23kg or 32kg (i.e. the domestic or international weights)? We are normally economical on our luggage. Our standard practice for a 3-4 week trip is a single suitcase shared between the two of us and a wheeled carryon size that we sometimes also check-in. That way I wheel the larger case and my wife wheels the carryon. This trip is a bit longer at 5 weeks and includes a 24 night cruise, so we might need a bit more stuff, more shoes and variety of outfits than we would normally take. Also, the family likes the dark choc peanut butter cups from Trader Joes, so we might load up on a few kilos of those for the return journey (all declared of course, you won't see us on Border Security). We wouldn't come anywhere near a 46kg total (I would hope), so the question is more about splitting the weight between the bags and avoiding any overweight fees.

Thanks in advance.
 
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I'm relatively new to all this, but hopefully I can try and assist. From what I can see from both AA and QF side, you should have 32kg all the way through.


Note: Where Qantas operates the trans-Pacific flight, and the connecting flights are with AA or UA, these airlines choose to follow Qantas' baggage allowance and fees for the entire journey when the ticket is issued on Qantas (081).

AA:
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I'm sure a more experienced peep will correct me if I'm wrong!
 
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I've done this several times, and for standard passengers on connecting tickets it's 32kg. AA will accept 1 checked bag, up to 32kg, without any issues.
 
Answer:

You have not specified which cabin you are travelling in for each flight. So:

The 1st checked bag is up to 32kg for everyone

If you are travelling in any cabin above Economy you get a second free 1x32kg bag

Then a third free 1x32 bag if you have QF Platinum or AA Exec Plat

This is for ORD-LAX-BNE
But note the e-ticket the details will be there.
 
Answer:

You have not specified which cabin you are travelling in for each flight. So:

The 1st checked bag is up to 32kg for everyone

If you are travelling in any cabin above Economy you get a second free 1x32kg bag

Then a third free 1x32 bag if you have QF Platinum or AA Exec Plat

This is for ORD-LAX-BNE
But note the e-ticket the details will be there.
OP is in Economy. It's in the title.
 
For ORD-LAX-BNE on AA then QF, AA baggage policy applies. AA has elected to apply their own policy and fees, not the most significant marketing carrier's policy (so QF is wrong).

The baggage allowance would be 1 bag at 32kg.
I thought AA deferred to the MSC for international itineraries (although as you note, they can go off the US's first marketing carrier rule if they so choose). Can't find it written down though (and the AA checked bag policy only refers to AA-operated flights).

Mind you, the JV means both QF and AA have the same basic allowance - 1x32KG bag...
 
Thanks to MELso, John82, aurora_b, MEL_Traveller, Quickstatus and madrooster for the replies. Thank you for the amount of effort you put in, and the personal experience detailed.

A couple of clarifying points in response:
  1. Ticket is "081-....", so a Qantas ticket. One ticket, One booking reference for both flights.
  • Eticket and itinerary does not list the baggage allowance, it just says "Partner Airlines Checked Baggage Allowance: Check your ticketed baggage allowance at Manage Booking.", which led me down this rabbit hole of doubt. Manage Booking says 1 piece (no weight specified for both flights, but then says look at the AA website.
Weight of opinion seems to be 4:1 in favour of 1x32kg/passenger included for both flights which is comforting. The website references are also useful and I will add them to my document file.

A couple of follow-up questions:
  1. Has anyone had an issue with the free checked baggage allowance being refused by AA? If so, how did you deal with it?

  2. It's been a while since we have caught US domestic flights. Our last trip home from the US was on the Qantas JFK flight, with plenty of time available for our check-in. This trip I've prebooked a late checkout at the hotel, so expect to leave the city (probably catch the train to the airport - google says about 65 minutes to ORD T3) by 2pm for a 5:10pm flight. I'm hoping to use the manned check-in rather than kiosk, just to deal with any baggage issues more easily if they do occur. A protein robot is easier to deal with than a electronic one in most cases. I'll look at the Tuesday afternoon TSA queue times in the weeks prior. Is that going to be enough time? If needed I can always use the kiosk if we a looking a bit tight.
Thanks again for your responses! We have travelled quite a bit through the US in a past life, but always with some sort of status that makes these concerns go away. This new world as a pleb is a bit more complicated.
 
Thanks to MELso, John82, aurora_b, MEL_Traveller, Quickstatus and madrooster for the replies. Thank you for the amount of effort you put in, and the personal experience detailed.

A couple of clarifying points in response:
  1. Ticket is "081-....", so a Qantas ticket. One ticket, One booking reference for both flights.
  • Eticket and itinerary does not list the baggage allowance, it just says "Partner Airlines Checked Baggage Allowance: Check your ticketed baggage allowance at Manage Booking.", which led me down this rabbit hole of doubt. Manage Booking says 1 piece (no weight specified for both flights, but then says look at the AA website.
Weight of opinion seems to be 4:1 in favour of 1x32kg/passenger included for both flights which is comforting. The website references are also useful and I will add them to my document file.

A couple of follow-up questions:
  1. Has anyone had an issue with the free checked baggage allowance being refused by AA? If so, how did you deal with it?

  2. It's been a while since we have caught US domestic flights. Our last trip home from the US was on the Qantas JFK flight, with plenty of time available for our check-in. This trip I've prebooked a late checkout at the hotel, so expect to leave the city (probably catch the train to the airport - google says about 65 minutes to ORD T3) by 2pm for a 5:10pm flight. I'm hoping to use the manned check-in rather than kiosk, just to deal with any baggage issues more easily if they do occur. A protein robot is easier to deal with than a electronic one in most cases. I'll look at the Tuesday afternoon TSA queue times in the weeks prior. Is that going to be enough time? If needed I can always use the kiosk if we a looking a bit tight.
Thanks again for your responses! We have travelled quite a bit through the US in a past life, but always with some sort of status that makes these concerns go away. This new world as a pleb is a bit more complicated.
Generally, arriving at the airport 3hrs prior to a “domestic” flight first ought to be plenty of time. I suspect you could try the kiosks first before heading to the staffed checkin counters. A shame neither of you have QF LTS - lifetime access to Business Checkin is not to be sniffed at!

At least in LAX you arrive airside and just take the airside connector to TBIT for your onward flight. Easy as.
 
I thought AA deferred to the MSC for international itineraries (although as you note, they can go off the US's first marketing carrier rule if they so choose).

They don't. Sometimes AA's policy is less favourable so I use the codeshare operated by AA to get around that if there is one. That is obviously not applicable here since it's a redemption.

Different carriers do different things... for example in Canada, AC applies their own policy but WS defers to the MSMC.

Unfortunately, there's no public way to confirm what a carrier has filed as their decision to ATPCO, but it's very easy to check in the GDS.
 
I don't doubt the expertise here, but several friends of mine have been charged for bags on the AA operated domestic flight taking them to the International departure airport..all on the same QF ticket. Very irritating. One even held Plat status with QF at the time and was charged for a 2nd bag by AA. Go to check in prepared with whatever documentation you can get.
 

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