Cheap flights coming? - China’s back

With Juneyao starting up (who I understand are more towards the LCC end), probably QF cut and run at the right time.
 
China just dropped Visa fees for <15 day visits. It is on my bucket list, and I would be happy to go on a purchased organized deal, given I hear the airports are chaotic with sudden gate changes between ends.
Yes there were lots of departing flights changing gates when I was flying through a couple of the airports - it seemed like every couple of minutes another flight was changing gates - fortunately mine didn't. To be fair though when I landed in Melbourne on QF30 on Sunday morning it was a 20-30 wait before there was a gate for us.
 
I received an email from Flybuys today regarding Singapore Airlines early bird sale to Europe from mid-January 2025 until mid-September 2025.

From $2110pp.

Seriously? Is this an early bird sale? I thought airfares were coming down.
 
I received an email from Flybuys today regarding Singapore Airlines early bird sale to Europe from mid-January 2025 until mid-September 2025.

From $2110pp.

Seriously? Is this an early bird sale? I thought airfares were coming down.
I just got a Flight Centre email advertising Etihad to Europe for $1250, UK is $1400.

Tell SQ their dreaming.
 
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I received an email from Flybuys today regarding Singapore Airlines early bird sale to Europe from mid-January 2025 until mid-September 2025.

From $2110pp.

Seriously? Is this an early bird sale? I thought airfares were coming down.
Had a laugh at a similar email from Qatar yesterday - "celebrating 15 years of service in Australia" with "special offers to London starting from $1,839 return in Economy Class"

To give QR credit, they do actually have some pretty competitively priced Europe return fares that I've seen for early next year (around $1400 in Feb). But LHR return for $1,839 (as an advertised 'special' price!!!) doesn't actually seem all that special, given what Etihad, Singapore, and the Chinese airlines have been offering recently.
 
ZH launching MEL:
 
Red eye both ways, no thanks. Did a domestic leg with them last year ex PVG which was good, but not a fan of overnight flights.
 
Air China are the nut low in my experience.
But I have not tried their business class. $5 wine?
 
Air China are the nut low in my experience.
But I have not tried their business class. $5 wine?
I don’t think any chinese carrier is going to win awards in economy… except maybe for juneyao airlines, which is sort of private.

I’ve flown Air China’s business class long haul many times, but on the a330 with the full-forward facing seats. They were very comfortable, although lacked privacy. Catering is not the strong point, but the champagne was cold! No a fan of the business class double seats angled in pairs, with tiny footwells. But that equally applies to all airlines with those seats (the ones same ones in this review of royal jordanian Royal Jordanian Boeing 787 Business Class Review)
 

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