Burning points for status using JASAs

[ComeFlyWithMe]

I'd like to know how people feel about the advent of being able to burn points for JASAs (on classic points levels) in order to achieve status...

I'm in the process of doing so, and have burned 200,000 points thus far, combined with the double SC targeted promo, should put me comfortably into WP 2 months before my anniversary date.

I guess this is only an option for those of us who get loads of points on credit cards, but I'm interested to hear the opinion of others. Does this cheapen the WP? I suppose in a way it does, but I did have to spend at least $133,333 :shock: to earn those points

 

[ejb]

It does not devalue WP status anymore than YUP's and KUPP's in the US or runs through Asia.

There will always be different ways of achieving status and each way will have pros and cons.

At least you are flying the roo.

ejb

 

[Mal]

There will always be different ways of achieving status and each way will have pros and cons.

Indeed. You're flying the required number of flights to make WP, thus meeting the current requirements.

 

[JohnK]

Some of us do not accumulate points quickly and cherish the points that we do earn. Some use them for upgrades, I use them one Oneworld awards.

Does this cheapen the WP?

I was thinking of this earlier. Personally I feel these type of "enhancements" and double SC promotions cheapen status that some people (yes the self funded traveller purchasing cheap red e-deals, the road warrior if you like) earn the hard way.

It does not devalue WP status anymore than YUP's and KUPP's in the US or runs through Asia.

Why single out these?

No different to DONE's or AONE's. A carefully constructed DONE4/5 purchased cheaply in another country is enough to earn QF Platinum status over 2 years.

Or how about a Finnair J special to Europe when Qantas wants at least double the airfare for the same trip.

Or how about the same day turnarounds to Nadi via 3 Australian cities?

Regardless of what is implemented people are going to exploit it any way possible to maximise the benefits for themselves. Qantas may feel they need more people with status which is fine from a business perspective but ultimately we are the ones that are going to suffer.

I wonder how people will react when they lose anytime access to domestic business class lounges or even normal Qantas Lounges? There is only so much space at each of the terminals. How will people react when they are not allowed to take any guests in the SYD/MEL First Lounges? How about anytime access to international Qantas Business Lounges.

Oh and as a Platinum get used to be allocated seats further and further back in the cabin as more Platinums are competing for the forward seats.

 

[ejb]

John,

I was only mentioning a couple of the "cheaper" ways of getting status that people use.

There is also the Lan run to NZ and back.

While we here at AFF keep abreast of every small change to earning I do not think that most people would care.

Not many people are going to book ASA to gain status and even fewer will change their bookings to get the double SC promo.

The great majority of people just don't have a clue about this stuff, I found the first few visits to this site very strange as you all have a weird way of talking and now my wife looks at me and shakes her head when I am talking your language.

I don't see there being many more WP's in the near future as most people would not go out of their way to gain it.

Whichever way we earn it, we have earned it so let the beer flow.

ejb

 

[samh004]

I concur with ejb, the majority of people taking advantage of the JASA’s as they are called in this thread are either already top tier, or very close to it and probably fly QF/OW exclusively already, as they’d be direct sweeping their points to QF. So this new offering might make re-qualification easier for some, but shouldn’t add a whole load of new members.

Further, those taking advantage of the double SC’s promotion will also be “frequent” flyers.

 

[Dave Noble]

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Further, those taking advantage of the double SC’s promotion will also be “frequent” flyers.

I would suggest that there a fair number of people getting the double promotion are those not been doing as much travel. v naughty Qantas sent me a letter which arrived today offering this promotion and means that if I was to use QF in june for trip back to Oz, I would get 1080 SCs for the one way trip. Still unlikely to downgrade to QF for it though. ( If I was doing it r/t I would get to PG ( for all that is not worth to me ) on the 1 r/t from zero SCs )

I doubt many people will be making a huge impact on difference to making status through this promo just QF trying to drum up business

 

[samh004]

I would suggest that there a fair number of people getting the double promotion are those not been doing as much travel.

There are quite a few of those I guess, but they probably aren’t flying because travel budgets are still slashed. People in that position might be able to get to SG from the double SC’s, but I doubt they’d qualify anyone for WP that hasn’t already been close.

It also doesn’t help now that no one can get to Europe.

 

[BABENS]

Hi - first time in the AFF blog. Would anyone be able to point to the part of the site where I can look up the terms JASA etc? I think I am interested in what the blog is referring to, but I am not completely clear on all of discussion points. Thx in advance from the newbie

 

[samh004]

Hi - first time in the AFF blog. Would anyone be able to point to the part of the site where I can look up the terms JASA etc? I think I am interested in what the blog is referring to, but I am not completely clear on all of discussion points. Thx in advance from the newbie

Welcome to AFF!

This isn’t a blog, but a forum, but in regards to Any Seat Awards (ASA) you can find a whole load of information on Qantas’ website here:

Qantas & Jetstar Any Seat Awards

The reason they are called JASA’s in this thread is that they are referring to J (business class) tickets.

This thread also has a lot of information on them, with recent member experiences tending to be posted now to it.

 

[vt01]

Hi - first time in the AFF blog. Would anyone be able to point to the part of the site where I can look up the terms JASA etc? I think I am interested in what the blog is referring to, but I am not completely clear on all of discussion points. Thx in advance from the newbie

Welcome to AFF Babens!

Normally check the Abbreviations and Questions thread in the Your Questions discussion board. I looked and couldn't find it.. So after a bit of research, I finally found it on the QFF website.. ASA is Any Seat Award so JASA would be a J class Any Seat Award.

Hope this helps
Cheers

 

[JohnK]

Hi - first time in the AFF blog. Would anyone be able to point to the part of the site where I can look up the terms JASA etc?

It does not exist. ASA can literally have many menaings. Some people are just too lazy to type out what they really want to say.

JASA in this context is supposed to mean Business Class Any Seat Award.

 

[simongr]

Some people are just too lazy to type out what they really want to say.

Just a little bit rude John - we have many abbreviations that we use here (for example the DONE and AONE you used above) and I don't think it is simple laziness that makes us use them.

I certainly don't think using JASAs "cheapens" WP - you actually flew to get the status. Out of interest did you actually fly places that you need to get to or just fly for the sake of it.

I am interested as well how you are getting close to WP on just 200K of awards - a return to the UK in J would costs 252K on standard awards and earn only 480SCs if paid for - so even with double Scs that would be 960 SCs.

 

[oz_mark]

I concur with ejb, the majority of people taking advantage of the JASA’s as they are called in this thread are either already top tier, or very close to it and probably fly QF/OW exclusively already, as they’d be direct sweeping their points to QF.

...or if you do an Any Seat search and discover that a YASA and a JASA can be had for the same number of points :shock:

 

[oz_mark]

It does not exist. ASA can literally have many menaings. Some people are just too lazy to type out what they really want to say.

JASA in this context is supposed to mean Business Class Any Seat Award.

Ther was a time when QP, WP, SG and so on did not have any meaning at all, but have found there way into the lexicon of AFF. JASA may, or may not, become an accepted abbreviation on this board.

 

[markis10]

Ther was a time when QP, WP, SG and so on did not have any meaning at all, but have found there way into the lexicon of AFF. JASA may, or may not, become an accepted abbreviation on this board.

But how may abbreviations we use have an abbreviation or acronym within the abbreviation? The good folks at various english schools might well be shocked, for me JASA does not mean Business Any Seat Award when you can abbreviate Qantas & Jetstar Any Seat Award to be Q&JASA !

As far as the use of points for any seat awards to get status, points have been considered as a currency for a long time now (especially here ), we now have more options on where to spend them for maximum value, at least you have to actually fly the flights to get the status and not just be good at buying coins or cupcakes!

 

[serfty]

I have updated the http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...viations-and-explanations-5056.html#post69096 post to include ASA, JASA and YASA (any need for FASA?)

 

[Travel Guru]

(for example the DONE and AONE you used above)

LONE, DONE and AONE arent exclusive to AFF, theyre used within the travel industry at large.

TG

 

[trippin_the_rift]

WP certainly has been cheapened over the past years.

One of my business colleagues has been comped to WP two years running, has received SC on NZ Jetsar flights (only targeted to nz wp's) and now has the double SC promo.

The only reason he's flying QF is because of this, and is more than happy with Gold Elite on ANZ (given they offer many more benefits including christmas gifts).

If you want further proof of WP devaluation, look at the number of people here doing YUP runs (then factor in those that read and do, but don't post).

The final proof I saw with my own eyes last week in the Syd F lounge. Was in there Sunday and Monday at non-peak periods and the lounge was extremely full. Monday I had to wait to get a restraunt table....

QF need to introduce a new, higher tier if they're going to devalue platinum.

 

[Alanslegal]

If you want further proof of WP devaluation, look at the number of people here doing YUP runs (then factor in those that read and do, but don't post).

I doubt the numbers of YUPP runners here on AFF would be affect the total % of WP overall, I would even dare guess that only ~5 AFF'ers per month would be doing so at most. That's say 60 current (and future) WP's from AFF per annum via MR.

The final proof I saw with my own eyes last week in the Syd F lounge. Was in there Sunday and Monday at non-peak periods and the lounge was extremely full. Monday I had to wait to get a restraunt table....

Could it be possible that lots of WP's and their guest were flying (or scrambling) out (or even stranded) due to the Ash Incident?