British Airways "crash" lands at London City Airport

[2muchplastic]

BBC NEWS | England | BA jet in airport 'hard landing'

Airliner crash lands in London | The Courier-Mail

Shows the difference between british reporting and australian media. On the BBC it shows as a hard landing, on news.com.au it's a crash!

 

[Dave Noble]

It seems quite reasonable to call it a crash landing and , in fact, the BBC article does state

The airport was closed after the crash landing which happened at about 1945 GMT on Friday.

Dave

 

[2muchplastic]

I guess it depends on people's perception of the word "crash". For some, it conjures up images of nothing left but a smoking hole in the ground and a debris field.
And before anyone leaps on me, I know that it was followed with the word "landing", but Joe Average hearing the words "plane" and "crash" in the same sentence will invariably think back to the smoking hole scenario.

 

[NM]

As the aircraft is likely to be used again and all passengers and crew survived, it meets the definition of a good landing. Scary yes, great no.

This reminds me the time I was sitting in the SYD T2 Qantas Club as the Ansett 747 landed and lost its nose gear. I saw it landing, but not the collapse (was out of view by then). But saw it perched at the end of the runway when we eventually departed on the east-west runway after a very long delay.

Now the BA 777 that landed short at LHR is what I would call a "crash landing".

 

[Nigelinoz]

As the aircraft is likely to be used again and all passengers and crew survived, it meets the definition of a good landing. Scary yes, great no.

This reminds me the time I was sitting in the SYD T2 Qantas Club as the Ansett 747 landed and lost its nose gear. I saw it landing, but not the collapse (was out of view by then). But saw it perched at the end of the runway when we eventually departed on the east-west runway after a very long delay.

Now the BA 777 that landed short at LHR is what I would call a "crash landing".

Yep,also reminds me of the incident when Qantas buried the nose of a 747 in a golf course at Bangkok back in 1999 I think?

 

[Evan]

When VH-OJH went golfing in BKK i would call that an incident

I have not read pprune or anywhere else yet but was it a hard landing that caused the nose gear issue or was it a normal landing that because hard due to a nosegear issue ? Rather large difference.

What would you call call the 717 landing last year ? a landing yes, but i think that would be called and incident also.

E

 

[Nigelinoz]

When VH-OJH went golfing in BKK i would call that an incident

I have not read pprune or anywhere else yet but was it a hard landing that caused the nose gear issue or was it a normal landing that because hard due to a nosegear issue ? Rather large difference.

What would you call call the 717 landing last year ? a landing yes, but i think that would be called and incident also.

E

PPRuNe are saying that there was an "abnormality" with the landing gear which neccessitated a short field landing and that the gear hit the ground hard causing it to collapse.

 

[WTL]

BBC NEWS | England | BA jet in airport 'hard landing'

Airliner crash lands in London | The Courier-Mail

Shows the difference between british reporting and australian media. On the BBC it shows as a hard landing, on news.com.au it's a crash!

Um, it's reality-check time for you if you think the British media has any superiority over Australia's.

 

[Nigelinoz]

Most of the Brits on PPRuNe seem to agree with calling it a crash because the aircraft was unable to be moved off the runway under it's own power.

 

[Skyring]

Interesting little airport, LCY. You get a great low-level view of London, one wingtip brushing the dome of St Pauls, look out the window as the pilot swings around and there is this tiny little runway, short and narrow, disappearing under the nose.

 

[NM]

Most of the Brits on PPRuNe seem to agree with calling it a crash because the aircraft was unable to be moved off the runway under it's own power.

Then they just didn't try hard enough. Surely full power would have allowed the aircraft to "taxi" off the runway .

 

[munitalP]

Ahhhh, I always miss the excitement, I was at LHR only hours before this incident...

Mr! from CX lounge, FRA

 

[munitalP]

Then they just didn't try hard enough. Surely full power would have allowed the aircraft to "taxi" off the runway .

or careful planning, they could have placed the nose on a luggage bogie and caused no disruption at all!!




Mr!

 

[Skyring]

or careful planning, they could have placed the nose on a luggage bogie and caused no disruption at all!!

Better yet, they could have had the luggage train waiting at the end of the runway for the crippled jet approaching, and if at the right moment the driver had hit the gas, the pilot could have lowered the nose gently onto the trolley, all would have been well.

Or if they had flown directly on to Cunnamulla rather than London City, then the bush mechanics there would have had the thing sorted in no time.

Pete, wondering what the Poms use for brains

 

[Nigelinoz]

The thread on PPRuNe has descended into an argument about whether it's real BA,coz of the City Flyer brand,and a "discussion"-mostly name calling ,about how challenging LCY is to fly into.