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Book a flight and Extend Current status to 2022

ChrisMars

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I got a reply from frequent_flyer@qantas.com.au (thanks @sudoer for suggesting to write to them) and got clarification on rollover of SC rollover:

Concerning this rollover offer, the up-to-100-SC that members might have earned already as part of Qantas Points Plus benefit will not count towards the ~40% SC that can be rollover to the next year once the qualifying flight is done, unfortunatly. (unless I got an erroneous answer).

To avoid confusion, as the whole thing is not simple,
If your anniversary is March 30, and you got say 100 SC rolloedover as part of the points plus club, on the 1st April 2020, then those 100 SC won't count toward the SC that can be rolled over on the 1st April 2021, but of course, for those who are points plus club this year, they will have their up-to-100 SC rolled over, making a total rollover of ~40% + 100 SC.

Hope this is clear 😁
 

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You all give in far too easily with this flight booking thing.
Try this:

1) Change your QF profile address to be outside of Australia. Free year, no flight requirement.

or/and

2) Don't book any flights. Watch Qantas magically extend your status for free when your year comes up.

Qantas won't downgrade you. They can't afford it.
 

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Hi all I have a question that I hope some one will be able to assist with.

I dropped back to LTG from WP this year and have an expiry date of 31 December, It looks like I will make it back to WP. So if I book and take a flight will my new Status be extended till 2022?
 
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Hi all I have a question that I hope some one will be able to assist with.

I dropped back to LTG from WP this year and have an expiry date of 31 December, It looks like I will make it back to WP. So if I book and take a flight will my new Status be extended till 2022?
If you earn the number of SC to reach WP before Dec 31, that makes you WP until 31 Dec 2021 and you should have your 12 months extension from that point. As well as booking the flight, of course.
 
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IME, when rebooking direct with QF using a flight credit, the PNR doesn't change, in which case I assume that would not count as a "new" booking for the purposes of retaining status. However, I just called Amex Travel to book using a flight credit that was issued when flights were cancelled in April, and when I got the confirmation for my new booking, it has a new PNR. I assume that will be treated as a new booking, so it should qualify as my one flight to retain status?

EDIT: when I got the final eticket the original PNR is in fact on there! Weird! Anyway, as you were, these rebookings will not count.
 
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I see how status pays the bills, there's 25+ comments on this thread alone looking for ways to get around this, loop holes etc.


Status is of no benefit to someone who doesn't fly with the relevant airline/alliance, so if people are trying to figure out ways of keeping their status without flying, I imagine it's because they are not currently able to travel, but they hope to be able to fly again in the future. If people keep their current QF status, they are far more likely to direct business to QF and its partners once they are able to travel again. At the risk of stating the obvious, that's why QF extended status for free initially, and is now making it ridiculously easy to retain for another year. If it turns out that some people retain their status as a result of this but never return to flying, that won't cost QF anything.
 

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This is not the place for discussion on the announcement regarding redundancies. Stick to the topic please.

A number of off-topic posts have been removed.
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You all give in far too easily with this flight booking thing.
Try this:

1) Change your QF profile address to be outside of Australia. Free year, no flight requirement.

or/and

2) Don't book any flights. Watch Qantas magically extend your status for free when your year comes up.

Qantas won't downgrade you. They can't afford it.

I would suggest that anyone considering option 1 should think carefully about whether this might be a breach of the QFF T&Cs. I honestly don't know if it would be, but there have been many examples of people having their QFF accounts suspended and even terminated for breaching T&Cs, e.g. claiming someone is a family member when they are not for the purposes of points transfers or reward bookings. When this happens, it seems that QFF suspends the account without warning and then requires the member to prove that they didn't do anything wrong.

As for option 2 - you could be right, but it would seem a bit risky to put it mildly, as once the year is up you would be at the mercy of QFF's benevolence.

Overall, at least for people who have Platinum or P1 status, I'm not sure if it would make sense to go so far out of your way to game the system, when playing by the letter of the law is so easy.
 

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It's one flight.. O N E !!! I mean.... really.

Frankly I am astounded that as a P1 not only have I been extended, gotten a boost and all that and NOW I could buy the cheapest flight, or use points even, and get another year of P1 for nothing. Sure i may not be using the status for much for most of that time ... but by say early 2022 I could well be using it a lot.

It's a no brainer

and honestly a part of me (and TTR will roll his eyes no doubt lol) who actually wants to give them the revenue, even if it's not much. I mean even if it's a little bit it drives demand, leads to more flights(and revenue) keeps more jobs, maybe even hire a few back... etc etc etc... kind of the greater (economic) good here comes to mind. Or just call me a sucker. Either way I want to fly not sit around and not.
 

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There is no reference to the 4 squiggle requirement although I'm hoping its implicitly not required as part of the status extension.
Still a bit edgy about this. the ~4 QF flights is not mentioned at all in the marketing spin at the beginning of the status support web page, or in the FAQs. I'm particularly interested because I would not requalify only because I haven't done the four QF flights, as I expect to get enough SCs to requalify,.

Reading the Status Extension section on its own, it only talks about people not making the status credits requirement. the FAQ says the status support extension only applies if you are unable to retain your status. It doesn't say anything about the separate four QF flight requirement
Eligible members who reside in Australia or New Zealand who are unable to achieve the Status Credits needed to retain their status will receive a 12-month status extension provided that before the end of their current Membership Year, they simply make at least one new eligible booking for travel before the end of 2021.
The abolition of the ~4 flights requirement is only implied by the spin at the beginning of the page, and in the email I received, which is broader in its terms than the detail in the status extension section. This from the email
If your status is due to expire in 2021 simply book a Qantas flight, and we will extend your Frequent Flyer Platinum status for a further 12 months.
Would be hard to weasel out of a statement like that, and hey it came from Olivia and all. But has anyone queried and got a response from QFF that the ~4 flights requirement has also been waived?

Cheers skip
 

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It's one flight.. O N E !!! I mean.... really.

Frankly I am astounded that as a P1 not only have I been extended, gotten a boost and all that and NOW I could buy the cheapest flight, or use points even, and get another year of P1 for nothing. Sure i may not be using the status for much for most of that time ... but by say early 2022 I could well be using it a lot.

It's a no brainer

and honestly a part of me (and TTR will roll his eyes no doubt lol) who actually wants to give them the revenue, even if it's not much. I mean even if it's a little bit it drives demand, leads to more flights(and revenue) keeps more jobs, maybe even hire a few back... etc etc etc... kind of the greater (economic) good here comes to mind. Or just call me a sucker. Either way I want to fly not sit around and not.
We may have bantered over the years and agreed to disagree on occasion, IMO your post above cannot be argued with. I will put it out there that there are many P1s and Plats that would agree that taking 1(one) flight with a PNR generated after the magical the QF date in Nov is a no brainer.
 
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Still a bit edgy about this. the ~4 QF flights is not mentioned at all in the marketing spin at the beginning of the status support web page, or in the FAQs. I'm particularly interested because I would not requalify only because I haven't done the four QF flights, as I expect to get enough SCs to requalify,.

Reading the Status Extension section on its own, it only talks about people not making the status credits requirement. the FAQ says the status support extension only applies if you are unable to retain your status. It doesn't say anything about the separate four QF flight requirement

The abolition of the ~4 flights requirement is only implied by the spin at the beginning of the page, and in the email I received, which is broader in its terms than the detail in the status extension section. This from the email

Would be hard to weasel out of a statement like that, and hey it came from Olivia and all. But has anyone queried and got a response from QFF that the ~4 flights requirement has also been waived?

Cheers skip

I ageee some might be overthinking, but your question is indeed valid. I would hope booking just the one flight will also apply to those achieving enough status credits on their own, but is is not actually clear. Paying hard money should be rewarded! Time to telephone the QFF Call Centre?
 

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... Time to telephone the QFF Call Centre?
If we get Manila or Cape Town to answer, what then? 😉

Edit: HUACA? Anyone who is concerned that the one-flight deal is a worry, should really get answers in writing, not by phone would be best
 
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I ageee some might be overthinking, but your question is indeed valid. I would hope booking just the one flight will also apply to those achieving enough status credits on their own, but is is not actually clear. Paying hard money should be rewarded! Time to telephone the QFF Call Centre?

If we get Manila or Cape Town to answer, what then? 😉 Edit: HUACA? Anyone who is concerned that the one-flight deal is a worry, should really get answers in writing, not by phone would be best
+1 Have just fired off an email to frequent_flyer@. Enough experience of being stung by ambivalent promises and ambiguous contracts in the past to be wary. The big promises and the fine print are not of course a contract and I am probably overthinking as Olivia's big promise email is plain on its face and would be hard to wriggle out of and tacky to even try. Will advise result if I get any.

Cheers skip
 

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Still a bit edgy about this. the ~4 QF flights is not mentioned at all in the marketing spin at the beginning of the status support web page, or in the FAQs. I'm particularly interested because I would not requalify only because I haven't done the four QF flights, as I expect to get enough SCs to requalify,.

Reading the Status Extension section on its own, it only talks about people not making the status credits requirement. the FAQ says the status support extension only applies if you are unable to retain your status. It doesn't say anything about the separate four QF flight requirement

The abolition of the ~4 flights requirement is only implied by the spin at the beginning of the page, and in the email I received, which is broader in its terms than the detail in the status extension section. This from the email

Would be hard to weasel out of a statement like that, and hey it came from Olivia and all. But has anyone queried and got a response from QFF that the ~4 flights requirement has also been waived?

Cheers skip
Completely agree with you PS as it's been something I've been thinking about since the pandemic hit. I started a thread a while back to hopefully find some definitive answers but still no luck.

The email from Olivia clearly stating my status will be extended is as close as it comes to a confirmation but as you said there is no mention of the squiggle requirement being removed in the email or here, so I'm only assuming it has been. Knowing QF and the poorly worded T&C's they publish it could go either way unless we have written confirmation.

+1 Have just fired off an email to frequent_flyer@. Enough experience of being stung by ambivalent promises and ambiguous contracts in the past to be wary. The big promises and the fine print are not of course a contract and I am probably overthinking as Olivia's big promise email is plain on its face and would be hard to wriggle out of and tacky to even try. Will advise result if I get any.

Cheers skip
Keep us posted! 👍
 

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Completely agree with you PS as it's been something I've been thinking about since the pandemic hit. I started a thread a while back to hopefully find some definitive answers but still no luck.

The email from Olivia clearly stating my status will be extended is as close as it comes to a confirmation but as you said there is no mention of the squiggle requirement being removed in the email or here, so I'm only assuming it has been. Knowing QF and the poorly worded T&C's they publish it could go either way unless we have written confirmation.


Keep us posted! 👍

According to your other thread, you're overseas - is that correct? It would be completely absurd if QF waived the SC requirements for people in that situation, but still required them to get the 4 squiggles. It's virtually impossible for anyone outside of Aus/NZ to earn squiggles right now - it would actually be much easier for them to get hundreds of SCs than it would be to get squiggles. I don't think there is any doubt that the ambiguity here is just poor wording from QF (as usual).

They are clearly giving anyone resident outside of Aus/NZ a free pass, and I can't see any way that the squiggle rule can apply for the rest of us either. They have announced we only have to book one flight, not necessarily even fly on it within the membership year, and furthermore that flight might not even qualify as one squiggle (as it could be a classic reward). I can't imagine that QF are secretly planning to enforce the squiggle rule too, which would probably mean withholding status extensions from the majority of members!
 
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