Best way to book Cathay fares

Status
Not open for further replies.

albatross710

Established Member
Joined
May 15, 2004
Posts
3,404
Over the last two years I've done a few flights with Cathay BNE-HKG-MNL/CEB/CRK. With some recent schedule changes they are looking to be the most convenient/shortest way for me to travel in 2017.

I have bought fares in the past year for these previous journeys with prices ranging from $660 - $900 which is the competitive price for these routes. Purchased via their website.

Sitting down to plan travels next Feb, April, July & October the fares range from $1,500 to $6,000 via the CX website.

Using ITA Matrix I can see CX fares slightly better or sometimes not at all. Sometimes I will want an open jaw BNE-CEB, CRK-BNE and the pricing goes haywire. Other times I might try BNE-HKG/HKG-BNE with the intention of using Cebu Pacific to connect out of HKG. That costs more than BNE-HKG-MNL/MNL-HKG-BNE on the same day.

Over time I've worked out the days that will work for me to avoid a HKG overnighter.

My problem is the fares are so diverse and I simply don't understand their marketing/distribution model.

What is the best way to buy CX fares, is this a case of needing to use a specialist CX travel agent?

Alby
 

JohnK

Veteran Member
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
43,731
I'm not a CX expert but in my experience CX airfares outside of sales are relatively expensive. Best to be ready to book when CC has a sale.

Also as you travel to Philippines quite a lot have you looked at purchasing return airfares ex-MNL?
 

yohy?!

Established Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2009
Posts
4,504
Qantas
Silver
The Aussie MPC team can be good for accessing these via phone if you have any MPC level. Failing that Id try the e-service centre to make the booking, don't believe they charge assistance fees and should be able to access more of the fares - the website often filters things out (like upgradeable fare buckets for example).
 
Possibly the best subscription service on the planet, designed specially by whisky lovers for whisky lovers. Join the club to grow your collection and drink great whisky.

AFF Supporters can remove this and all advertisements

albatross710

Established Member
Joined
May 15, 2004
Posts
3,404
Thanks JohnK and Yohy?! . I see they did have a special over Christmas but I was on a beach instead.

I am starting to see the need to jumping on their sale fares.

JohnK regarding the ex-MNL fares I did some calculations and can see $100-$150 fare savings on return to BNE. I'm thinking that this level of saving can quickly be eroded when a travel requirement changes over the two three months it will take me to use the full wrapped fare. But, I should revisit as I'm currently booking the next two trips which should fit nicely.

Alby
 

trippin_the_rift

Established Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2006
Posts
3,898
Over the last two years I've done a few flights with Cathay BNE-HKG-MNL/CEB/CRK. With some recent schedule changes they are looking to be the most convenient/shortest way for me to travel in 2017.

I have bought fares in the past year for these previous journeys with prices ranging from $660 - $900 which is the competitive price for these routes. Purchased via their website.

Sitting down to plan travels next Feb, April, July & October the fares range from $1,500 to $6,000 via the CX website.

Using ITA Matrix I can see CX fares slightly better or sometimes not at all. Sometimes I will want an open jaw BNE-CEB, CRK-BNE and the pricing goes haywire. Other times I might try BNE-HKG/HKG-BNE with the intention of using Cebu Pacific to connect out of HKG. That costs more than BNE-HKG-MNL/MNL-HKG-BNE on the same day.

Over time I've worked out the days that will work for me to avoid a HKG overnighter.

My problem is the fares are so diverse and I simply don't understand their marketing/distribution model.

What is the best way to buy CX fares, is this a case of needing to use a specialist CX travel agent?

Alby

A few tips....

- Booking in reverse will always be cheaper, and there will be more sales (eg: MNL-HKG-BNE-HKG-MNL)
- Use Hopper app to monitor and plan the best time to buy
- CX has a habit of releasing a sale a day after bad press in Hong Kong. Fortunately, there's a lot lately, which means a lot of sales, especially in premium cabins (although not ex-au)

You will always pay a premium to fly CX ex-Australia no matter what happens. CX enjoys high loads and little competition on AU-HKG.

However, this will change when CX switches to NDC. This will allow for super-customized pricing based on who you are, where you book etc. CX only started exploring NDC last year so I doubt anything will transpire til 2018.
 

JohnK

Veteran Member
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
43,731
Can you explain NDC? Or point me to a site that does? Thanks.
NDC is IATA New Distribution Capability. It is basically a new industry standard to facilitate a more efficient airline distribution system. Some 90 airlines will be using new system by 2020.

Google 'NDC airline' and you'll get the IATA links and some articles.
 

Limewood

Established Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2006
Posts
4,495
A few tips....


You will always pay a premium to fly CX ex-Australia no matter what happens. CX enjoys high loads and little competition on AU-HKG.
.

Try CNS/HKG/CNS its usually $6000+ in J and only 6.5hr flight!, so I've used AS miles a few times cost was around $1750AUD :p.
 

JohnK

Veteran Member
Joined
Mar 22, 2005
Posts
43,731
You will always pay a premium to fly CX ex-Australia no matter what happens. CX enjoys high loads and little competition on AU-HKG.
Don't CX have some cheap fares to Europe right now? Cheaper to get to Europe than fly to Asia outside of sales.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top