Bankwest Qantas Transaction account [being withdrawn in 2025]

[fairbasa]

Perhaps it was a Uber thingo ... it was Skyring that mentioned it.

I read it as a wind-up for any OZBargainers visiting here but could be wrong...

 

[jbman]

I am guessing someone read the post on OZB and contacted BW about it

https://forum.bankwest.com.au/t5/Ev...-BWA-Qantas-Transaction-account/m-p/3185#M623

 

[mannej]

Thewinchester used to be a fairly regular poster on here a number of years ago

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Is the 'abuse if account' provision new? Otherwise it seems fair and reasonable that Bankwest are closing accounts with this type of activity. If that provision was pre-existing I'm not sure how some feel they did 'no wrong' in running these scripts?

That being said... what drives someone to contact the bank about this?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Thewinchester used to be a fairly regular poster on here a number of years ago

i noticed the similarity too... but surely not the same person?

 

[mannej]

i noticed the similarity too... but surely not the same person?

Same person.

 

[Princess Fiona]

i noticed the similarity too... but surely not the same person?

Same person.

Agree, it's the same person or at least using the same avatar.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Agree, it's the same person or at least using the same avatar.

I wonder if the mods have checked IP addresses to see if we have a "phantom" or two amongst us. What I can't understand, is that regardless of whether the point haul was "politically correct" or not, if no one can identify a particular breach of Ts&Cs, how can anyone be chastised for running with it? Isn't this kind of "points maximisation" exactly what has made AFF the valuable resource that it is?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I wonder if the mods have checked IP addresses to see if we have a "phantom" or two amongst us. What I can't understand, is that regardless of whether the point haul was "politically correct" or not, if no one can identify a particular breach of Ts&Cs, how can anyone be chastised for running with it? Isn't this kind of "points maximisation" exactly what has made AFF the valuable resource that it is?

isn't that exactly the point? a potential breach of the Ts&Cs has been identified... 'abuse of account'

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Why even bother continuing to discuss this? It's been shut down

 

[N860CR]

isn't that exactly the point? a potential breach of the Ts&Cs has been identified... 'abuse of account'

Why even bother continuing to discuss this? It's been shut down

I agree. It's done and dusted. Was just another "short lived" points earner that realistically lasted a lot longer than anyone expected. This is what this forum is all about.

I do find it funny that a certain individual took it upon themselves to call a bank and "dob people in". If a bank the size of BW needs a consumer to do their research for them, then they have bigger internal problems that we thought!

Should it be the same person who used to post here... then it makes a lot more sense.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

yes, some people have really far too much spare time on their hands. Quite amusing.

 

[JohnK]

That being said... what drives someone to contact the bank about this?

A shareholder? Jealousy?

I don't follow this thread much but I believe many accounts were closed in August/September and people are still getting mistake QFF points credited every month as Bankwest has no idea what is going on?

 

[Deleted member 29185]

isn't that exactly the point? a potential breach of the Ts&Cs has been identified... 'abuse of account'

I was mainly referring to a QFF breach, but in any case I fail to see how paying a legitimate invoice can be "an abuse", in fact it was BW's own Ts&Cs which encouraged people to pay smaller amounts. It's just that some took it to the extreme. However, since I don't have a BW account, nor was involved in this scheme, I have no desire to argue for or against the legalities (not to mention I have no qualification to do so either).

 

[burmans]

A shareholder? Jealousy?

I don't follow this thread much but I believe many accounts were closed in August/September and people are still getting mistake QFF points credited every month as Bankwest has no idea what is going on?

On the first two questions, probably just an exaggerated sense of their own importance and a belief in their capability as a bush lawyer (clearly not a real one by their comments).

On the last, Bankwest certainly do know what's going on, the continual crediting of points is therefore best regarded as just gross incompetence in my view.

 

[N860CR]

On the first two questions, probably just an exaggerated sense of their own importance and a belief in their capability as a bush lawyer (clearly not a real one by their comments).

On the last, Bankwest certainly do know what's going on, the continual crediting of points is therefore best regarded as just gross incompetence in my view.

If it's the same person who used to post here (and I apologize if I'm way off, I don't read OZB) they had a bizarre obsession with Qantas <redacted>. I'd say they felt someone was hurting their beloved Qantas and took it upon themselves to be the one to "rescue" them.

 

[mannej]

If it's the same person who used to post here (and I apologize if I'm way off, I don't read OZB) they had a bizarre obsession with Qantas <redacted>. I'd say they felt someone was hurting their beloved Qantas and took it upon themselves to be the one to "rescue" them.

Whilst I have only met the member you are referring to a couple of times, no I don't believe he has serious problems.

 

[JohnK]

On the last, Bankwest certainly do know what's going on, the continual crediting of points is therefore best regarded as just gross incompetence in my view.

Agreed. Gross incompetence.

But be very careful. I know not the same but if a bank kept depositing money in your account and you kept spending that money then you could possibly get yourself in trouble if they decided to take action. That may not be the case here but you could potentially get yourself banned from Bankwest and/or QFF for life.

And I'm no expert. Just thinking out loud.

 

[N860CR]

Whilst I have only met the member you are referring to a couple of times, no I don't believe he has serious problems.

Good to know. His posts however certainly seemed that way to me.

 

[burmans]

Agreed. Gross incompetence.

But be very careful. I know not the same but if a bank kept depositing money in your account and you kept spending that money then you could possibly get yourself in trouble if they decided to take action. That may not be the case here but you could potentially get yourself banned from Bankwest and/or QFF for life.

And I'm no expert. Just thinking out loud.

What, get banned because BW keep depositing points? Once is a mistake, this isn't.

Yes, people have got into trouble by spending money that arrived in their accounts, indeed in one example I believe someone was jailed. But the difference is that this is not money and QFF would have great trouble making a case that QFF points have value when their T&C's explicitly state that points have no monetary value. Courts tend to take a very negative view on making such claims and then attempting separately to claim that points do have monetary value.

Also BW would have great difficulty running the line this is accidental given they keep on doing it. The first time might have been a mistake, failure to fix a problem they are well aware of is a deliberate business decision (probably more expensive to fix). The law may well have sympathy for mistakes, they don't have sympathy with organisations who know they have issues but just fail to fix them (and try and blame the person receiving the points).

Note: I have no skin in this game anymore, and aren't one of those receiving points. But don't have a lot of sympathy for BW given their recent history.