Availability of Seats and costs with Virgin and QANTAS FF

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vickitony93

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For Xmas, I am trying to book Points tickets from Brisbane/Sydney to Canada ( or LA ). I have noticed that with some Airlines in Virgin Partners , there seems to be a limit on points seating ( whether it be Economy/ Premium Economy or Business Class ) as well as blackout dates before Xmas. I have also noticed that QANTAS have become horrendously expensive with their Points Redemptions for flights. Has anyone else noticed this ? I spoke with Virgin this morning and the bloke said that some of their partner airlines MAY release more seats, but they don't know when. has anyone heard this ?
 
For Xmas, I am trying to book Points tickets from Brisbane/Sydney to Canada ( or LA ). I have noticed that with some Airlines in Virgin Partners , there seems to be a limit on points seating ( whether it be Economy/ Premium Economy or Business Class ) as well as blackout dates before Xmas. I have also noticed that QANTAS have become horrendously expensive with their Points Redemptions for flights. Has anyone else noticed this ? I spoke with Virgin this morning and the bloke said that some of their partner airlines MAY release more seats, but they don't know when. has anyone heard this ?
Hey Vickitony93,

Some more experienced members may add/correct me on this, but award availability around Christmas time regardless of travel year is notoriously difficult to obtain. Airlines tend to release their award inventory right on release date (up to 353 before the flight for QF, as an example), or with less than a month left before the flight.
On QF, if the awards are horrendously expensive as you said, you're probably only seeing points rates for their 'Points plus Pay' option, which is stupidly expensive and one of the worst use of points you can find. What you need to be looking for is 'Classic Awards'. For QF from SYD - LAX/YVR, the costs of a 'Classic Award' would be:
- 41,900 for Economy
- 81,300 for Premium Economy
- 108,400 for Business
Bear in mind that if there are connecting flights, the cost will be slightly increased.

For VA, their redemptions for O/S travel have been limited to Economy on SQ, which is in a dubious state at this point. No one is sure when full booking ability will be restored, but VA have said you'll be able to book premium cabins 'shortly'.

Overall, you're looking to book at a notoriously difficult time, with a large amount of pent-up travel demand and a lot of people with a lot of points not having been spent due to the pandemic. You will definitely need to be flexible in when you're going, unfortunately.

Hope this helps :)
 
Virgin Aust are going to be a partner with United Airlines. That may open up more opportunities.
But as above awards at Christmas - New Year can be hard to get.
With AU closed for ~2 years will plenty paying pax at that time of year, making up for "lost" trips.

 
@vickitony93 as others mention travelling at Christmas through major hubs on rewards will be difficult. Although we are only in mid Feb depending on the carrier some rewards seats will have been available since early Jan and may have been snapped up. Are you looking just at VA or do you have sufficient QF points to book, if you use the multi city tool and check flexible dates there are classic rewards seats available from SYD and BNE, be it not the best with QF/JL/AA to YVR and LAX via Japan on most days.
 
There has been decent availability for Velocity on Air Canada's Sydney<>Vancouver flights, depending on the day of the week, and even including some seats in business class.

And yes, United (Sydney/Melbourne<>San Francisco/Los Angeles/Houston) is coming soon to Velocity, but there's no guarantee of availability.

But Christmas is definitely peak, and about the most difficult time to redeem miles.
 
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