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Australia, USA look to reach open skies in early next year
By Mary Kirby


Australia and the USA have agreed to initiate bilateral discussions with the goal of forging an open skies accord by early next year.
Existing open skies arrangements between the two countries are limited to cargo services.
However, Australia’s deputy prime minister Mark Vaile and US transportation secretary Mary Peters on 4 October revealed their intention to conclude a comprehensive open skies aviation agreement, with detailed terms expected to be hammered out in early 2008.
Open skies between the two countries would permit carriers to determine the frequency of their air services, the routes they wish to serve, and the prices they wish to charge, without governmental interference. Australia’s Qantas Airways currently offers the most connections between the two countries, with links from Sydney and Melbourne to several US gateways.
“The commitment to these [open skies] discussions recognizes that the liberalization of international air services, in parallel with the existing bilateral commitment to aviation safety, is a key driver for both countries’ economies, providing the ability to strengthen and expand their already strong trade and tourism links,” say US and Australia regulators in a joint communiqué.
“Both countries are strong advocates of air service liberalization and with this shared goal clearly in mind, Mr Vaile and Ms Peters have agreed that their respective aviation officials will meet before the end of this year to commence discussions.”
 
The current USA-Oz aggreement allows any US or Aust owned airline to have 4 services per week, (without Government approval). That is how Hawaiian started. Virgin could do 4 but thay have asked for 7 services per week. Somewhere on the US gov web site is a pdf file about this (Have the link somewhere)

Getting approval from the aviation authorities to fly is another matter. Hawaiian had long over ocean experince so was not hard.

Them the airline has to find airports to land and takeoff from.
 
Mwenenzi said:
The current USA-Oz aggreement allows any US or Aust owned airline to have 4 services per week, (without Government approval). That is how Hawaiian started. Virgin could do 4 but thay have asked for 7 services per week. Somewhere on the US gov web site is a pdf file about this (Have the link somewhere)

Getting approval from the aviation authorities to fly is another matter. Hawaiian had long over ocean experince so was not hard.

Them the airline has to find airports to land and takeoff from.
I thought the current bilateral allowed for unlimited flights by any US or AU owned carrier, but new comers were restricted to four flights per week for the first year of operation. Hence, the reason why AA and NW could start daily services tomorrow, but other carriers (DL, etc) couldn't.

Dave
 
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thadocta said:
I thought the current bilateral allowed for unlimited flights by any US or AU owned carrier, but new comers were restricted to four flights per week for the first year of operation. Hence, the reason why AA and NW could start daily services tomorrow, but other carriers (DL, etc) couldn't.

Dave
That is also my understanding. They can apply for more than 4/week, and it can be granted if the authorities agree, but the other airlines have the chance to lodge comments/protests.
 
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