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[mjt57]

As I've said previously, the day I had my 120 gr of toothpaste taken off me by security was the same day the aircraft blew up. Didn't seem to help, though I might have liked to have had that tube later.

QF30?

 

[Saab34]

though all I had to do was call the company.

That seems helpful. So you call an internal security team and the deal with the offload via the police?

 

[jb747]

That seems helpful. So you call an internal security team and the deal with the offload via the police?

You don't generally go straight to security. You speak to the local company agent. They'll have all of the necessary contacts. Very rare for things to elevate to this sort of level though. Perhaps certain nationalities, and football fans, are the most prone to it.....

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hi pilots… interested to know what happens in a situation like this?

On approach to Muscat, ATC advises pilot to descend to 2200 feet, pilot responds the company charts indicate the minimum is 3600 feet.

Turkish Airlines Pilot & Muscat ATC Argue: "I Don't Follow Anyone's Orders"

A Turkish Airlines pilot and Muscat air traffic controller got into a heated argument over minimum safe altitude, and it escalated.

onemileatatime.com

 

[Rabs97]

Hi pilots… interested to know what happens in a situation like this?

On approach to Muscat, ATC advises pilot to descend to 2200 feet, pilot responds the company charts indicate the minimum is 3600 feet.

Turkish Airlines Pilot & Muscat ATC Argue: "I Don't Follow Anyone's Orders"

A Turkish Airlines pilot and Muscat air traffic controller got into a heated argument over minimum safe altitude, and it escalated.

onemileatatime.com

Just what happened in the clip. The Turkish pilot wouldn’t accept a lower radar lowest safe altitude below the published chart Minimum Safe Altitude due to what he said were his company’s SOPs. So instead of being vectored to intercept the ILS closer to the runway (necessitating a lower altitude) they were instead vectored to intercept final further back as number two. The Turkish crew will probably file a safety report back to their company so they can look at it, consult with Oman ATC and possibly amend their procedures. Or not. That’s exactly how the safety management system is supposed to work.

As the article pointed out it was actually handled quite professionally between the two parties. If it had of been in the USA you would’ve heard aggression, ego and “copy this number”.