ALL QF's 330's to get lay flat Business seating - Including Domestic

[eric2011]

Both QF & EF still showing the old birds for my SYD-HNL-SYD trips at the end of September. Both flights showing as full with only 2 unallocated seats. After reading JohnK's post a while back and a flight on a refurb from SYD-BNE last week I tend to agree with him and am not too much bothered if I travel the un-refurbs

 

[moa999]

I don't quite understand how longer flights need more toilets - you have longer to use them.

The toilet ratio in J (even on the 330-200) at 28:1 (or 26:1 with blocked seats) is still much better than in Y, and they seem to manage OK down back.
The only pinch point I can see is in the last hour of the overnight flights back to Australia with people rushing to change out of PJs.

 

[hutch]

I don't quite understand how longer flights need more toilets - you have longer to use them.

The toilet ratio in J (even on the 330-200) at 28:1 (or 26:1 with blocked seats) is still much better than in Y, and they seem to manage OK down back.
The only pinch point I can see is in the last hour of the overnight flights back to Australia with people rushing to change out of PJs.

I guess the point is I don't expect to wait, at least not long, if flying business.

1 toilet on a domestic flight, where people may use terminal facilities, is a different ballgame to a longer flight where most passengers are likely to have a comfort visit.

 

[dzinh]

From 19th Aug all 330 will have full flat beds in J. Yay

 

[moa999]

From 19th Aug all 330 will have full flat beds in J. Yay

How/where did you come up with that date?

At present it is all flat beds, just not fully flat.
And I wouldn't expect to be able to say fully flat until a couple of weeks after 19-Aug, unless they put three in the shed at the same time.

 

[Awesom Andy]

How/where did you come up with that date?

At present it is all flat beds, just not fully flat.
And I wouldn't expect to be able to say fully flat until a couple of weeks after 19-Aug, unless they put three in the shed at the same time.

I guess operationally, it is possible that there would be only refurbs flying around from the start of Sep, although I wonder if they would send the last 2 straight to the shed, especially the last one which the workshop may not be able to turn around before the start of the school holidays.

 

[Lynne Mangold]

I don't quite understand how longer flights need more toilets - you have longer to use them.

lol, actually we have a shorter time so we can get out for the next person.

 

[maninblack]

If they use A332 aircraft for HNL with one toilet it will be a pretty bad setup for the last few hours of the flights.

 

[spiredturnip]

From 19th Aug all 330 will have full flat beds in J. Yay

Semantics, but like moa999 said they're lie-flat. The two 'workspace' A330s (VH-EBP, EBO) are in Brissie at the moment undergoing refurb, and there's two Skybed A330s (EBG, EBL) still banging around. No A330s without the business suite or Skybed are in service at the moment though, which is pretty neat

 

[ajw373]

If they use A332 aircraft for HNL with one toilet it will be a pretty bad setup for the last few hours of the flights.

How is that any different to say Jakarta or Singapore that see the -200's regularly, especially on the overnight returns to Aus.

 

[seat11a]

My flight to CGK next March 2017 has just been changed from an A332 Suite aircraft to an A332 Skybed aircraft. Fingers crossed they change it again. But I'm surprised, I would have thought all aircraft would have been completed in the next 6 months.

Oh well

 

[maninblack]

Singapore will be bad in that case too but so far they are generally using 300's and HNL Is an even longer flight

 

[mannej]

My flight to CGK next March 2017 has just been changed from an A332 Suite aircraft to an A332 Skybed aircraft. Fingers crossed they change it again. But I'm surprised, I would have thought all aircraft would have been completed in the next 6 months.

Oh well

The reason for this may be that the specific rego the system has for your flight still has skybeds, but will change when the aircraft gets refurbed.

 

[ajw373]

Singapore will be bad in that case too but so far they are generally using 300's and HNL Is an even longer flight

Actually you will find that at least one of the 4 A330 flights a day to SIN is a -200, and CGK has been -200's, with maybe 1 or 2 -300's per month for sometime now. In fact CGK since Nov last year was the first route where you could all but gurantee you would get a newly fitted A330.

My flight to CGK next March 2017 has just been changed from an A332 Suite aircraft to an A332 Skybed aircraft. Fingers crossed they change it again. But I'm surprised, I would have thought all aircraft would have been completed in the next 6 months.

Oh well

That is odd indeed, they should have been upgraded by then. Unless it is an indication that they will be keeping them as is for the time being, maybe primarily for the HNL route. Bit like how they have kept 3 un-upgraded 747's.

 

[moa999]

That is odd indeed, they should have been upgraded by then. Unless it is an indication that they will be keeping them as is for the time being, maybe primarily for the HNL route.

Haven't seen any indication of that - the seats and IFE are ancient but the aircraft are much younger than the unrefurbed 747s.

We should find out in the next week or so when EBO comes out of the shed.

 

[Awesom Andy]

That is odd indeed, they should have been upgraded by then. Unless it is an indication that they will be keeping them as is for the time being, maybe primarily for the HNL route. Bit like how they have kept 3 un-upgraded 747's.

For the skybed aircraft, they can't change the seat map for them until it's gone into the workshop as the seat maps are needed for the current flights.

 

[Christopher Campbell]

From my quick research it seems that EBL is heading into refurb this afternoon on QF560 and EBO returning from refurb late this evening. There are no A330s flying to Brisbane afternoon or in Brisbane apart from EBL which landed around half an hour ago. It did a seat check using seat alerts expert flyer and it shows a 1-2-1 configuration for tonights QF767 Brisbane - Perth.

 

[moa999]

Right on schedule. EBL has been running east coast routes for the last couple of days.

EBG seems to be dedicated on QF3 SYD-HNL with a few triangle routes on its days off (only a 5/wk frequency)

 

[Christopher Campbell]

From Zac M YSSY forum

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EBC arrives as QF598 and operates EBL returns to SYD as QF531

EDIT: 531 may be cancelled so that EBL can ops 651 to PER, it appears EBE is unserviceable.

 

[Christopher Campbell]

hopefully tomorrow.