A sign of things to come? Points + Pay your way to UK and Europe

[Dave Noble]

Dave Noble,

Not sure what your problem is here Dave. The only 'word' used was 'idiot' which has several meanings, one or more of which are very appropriate in the context of this discussion.s.

It also has a meaning to refer to someone whose IQ is < 25

if someone uses their own miles in a manner which they are happy with using and that they feel that they got value from then that is a good use of miles regardless of whether other people think it is a poor use and are not idiots for doing so

I cannot see myself using that award since I have no use for $300 land content and the saving otherwise isn't v good imo, plus I am not desiring to fly economy to Europe

Dave

 

[straitman]

It also has a meaning to refer to someone whose IQ is < 25

if someone uses their own miles in a manner which they are happy with using and that they feel that they got value from then that is a good use of miles regardless of whether other people think it is a poor use and are not idiots for doing so

I cannot see myself using that award since I have no use for $300 land content and the saving otherwise isn't v good imo, plus I am not desiring to fly economy to Europe

Dave

Dave,

I'll agree to disagree with you and go with the more commonly used definition.

 

[turtlemichael]

Knowing Qantas and their interesting ways, I have no doubt they are using this as a test of something to 'improve' the FF scheme.

I can't identify many situations where this promotion would be the best use of points and dollars for anyone. The basis for making a good decision is knowledge and therefore it seems to me totally appropriate that the promotion is characterised here as a load of old codswallop.

Sadly, Mal's point above seems about the most logical thing about it.

 

[straitman]

I can't identify many situations where this promotion would be the best use of points and dollars for anyone. The basis for making a good decision is knowledge and therefore it seems to me totally appropriate that the promotion is characterised here as a load of old codswallop.

Sadly, Mal's point above seems about the most logical thing about it.

I smell an 'enhancement' coming this way

 

[NM]

so I pose this question, will any member here on AFF utilise this promotion?

my prediction is that nobody here on AFF will.....

I won't be using it.

However, if it was to book into something other than X class (say N, O, V etc) then it may well be very attractive for someone who cannot find regular awards on the dates they want to travel. So if it means the difference between paying the regular fare price or supplementing with points, then it may be beneficial for some people.

Giving people options is generally a good thing. Just as I choose to buy my Vegemite in 425gram jars because I find is better value than buy lots of 35 gram jars. For some people the 35 gram jars may be good value, but for me they are poor value. But if the 425g jars were all sold out, and I still wanted to purchase Vegemite, I would consider buying a different size jar of Vegemite rather than consider buying Marmite. It all depends on the circumstances.

 

[wandering_fred]

I find it somewhat disgusting that QF is using the basic lack of knowledge of many of its customers to improve its financial position. I believe the commercial term is lack of transparency.

I would put this in the same category as Holden offering a great deal on their latest and greatest and most popular model. Only to find out the only cars the dealers will sell you under the deal have 50% added on for bells and whistles that are not discounted and most of which you don't want.

Buy your QF tickets in SIN or BKK or HKG where there is some competition.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[turtlemichael]

I won't be using it.

Giving people options is generally a good thing. Just as I choose to buy my Vegemite in 425gram jars because I find is better value than buy lots of 35 gram jars. For some people the 35 gram jars may be good value, but for me they are poor value. But if the 425g jars were all sold out, and I still wanted to purchase Vegemite, I would consider buying a different size jar of Vegemite rather than consider buying Marmite. It all depends on the circumstances.

I think part of the concern is that while Qantas may be continuing to sell Vegemite in 425g jars, they may be so rare that you are forced to buy the 35g jar if you want Vegemite at all. And, seeing you have pre-purchased vegemite bonds (i.e. frequent flyer points) which can't be used to buy marmite even if you want to, your options may be diminishing.

Well, it makes sense to me!

 

[mainly tailfirst]

I can't identify many situations where this promotion would be the best use of points and dollars for anyone. The basis for making a good decision is knowledge and therefore it seems to me totally appropriate that the promotion is characterised here as a load of old codswallop.

Sadly, Mal's point above seems about the most logical thing about it.

Terry McCrann has unloaded a bit on this 'deal' as well.

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When I first saw the headline, I thought it related to Mexicana!

mt

 

[NM]

Well, it makes sense to me!

I understand completely

 

[simongr]

I think part of the concern is that while Qantas may be continuing to sell Vegemite in 425g jars, they may be so rare that you are forced to buy the 35g jar if you want Vegemite at all. And, seeing you have pre-purchased vegemite bonds (i.e. frequent flyer points) which can't be used to buy marmite even if you want to, your options may be diminishing.

Well, it makes sense to me!

You can't compare vegemite and marmite. Two fundamentally different priducts. One has a glistening sheen that reflects the tiny amount of sunlight in the UK - the other acts as a light sink sucking the beautiful sun from our skies in Oz.

 

[NM]

You can't compare vegemite and marmite. Two fundamentally different priducts.

Is that Egglish or NZ Marmite you reference? They are two very different products.

 

[simongr]

We will never mention NZ ite again.

 

[dajop]

Giving people options is generally a good thing. Just as I choose to buy my Vegemite in 425gram jars because I find is better value than buy lots of 35 gram jars. For some people the 35 gram jars may be good value, but for me they are poor value.

OK now you started it .... I noticed that until very recently the jar price of a 240 gram jar of vegemite was actually cheaper than the jar price of a smaller jar (I think the 180 gram size , which cost more $$$, not just on a per gram basis but on the whole jar). Anyone not looking at the prices closely may have just bought the 180g jar. Or not, perhaps as this situation is now back to what would be expected. But I'm sure the analogy is valid with the Qantas promo.

Now back on topic ...

However, if it was to book into something other than X class (say N, O, V etc) then it may well be very attractive for someone who cannot find regular awards on the dates they want to travel.

If it was booked into N, O, V etc, then it could be eligible for accruing pts. meaning that for a WP it would only cost a net of 60,000 pts + fare.

 

[straitman]

If it was booked into N, O, V etc, then it could be eligible for accruing pts. meaning that for a WP it would only cost a net of 60,000 pts + fare.

The eternal optimist.

There's a +ve side to every story :!:

 

[oz_mark]

The eternal optimist.

There's a +ve side to every story :!:

Given that the offer is being made available through Qantas Holidays (which is interesting in itself), I would also have thought that you'd get 1 point per dollar for using Qantas Holidays.

 

[NM]

If it was booked into N, O, V etc, then it could be eligible for accruing pts. meaning that for a WP it would only cost a net of 60,000 pts + fare.

Don't assume that it would definitely be eligible for points. There are lots of ways they could deem such a fare to be ineligible even if they use one of the booking classes that is eligible for a regular paid fare.

 

[oz_mark]

Don't assume that it would definitely be eligible for points. There are lots of ways they could deem such a fare to be ineligible even if they use one of the booking classes that is eligible for a regular paid fare.

Interesting that the terms of the promotion don't say anything about eligibility. They certainly don't say that they won't accure/

 

[jpk]

Given that the offer is being made available through Qantas Holidays (which is interesting in itself), I would also have thought that you'd get 1 point per dollar for using Qantas Holidays.

Another possibility: testing the waters on selling off the QF Holidays business unit, while maintaining the appearance of FF links?

The sale of the holidays/catering/FF businesses has been well discussed and expected...

 

[oz_mark]

Another possibility: testing the waters on selling off the QF Holidays business unit, while maintaining the appearance of FF links?

The sale of the holidays/catering/FF businesses has been well discussed and expected...

True, but it would also mean that some value will be placed on the points for the transfer of $$ between the units.

 

[straitman]

Has anyone asked the question :?: