A 380 Orders

[kelvedon]

Good news for Airbus with Iran ordering 12 A380's along with a further 106 wide and narrow body jets from company. Isn't this the first order for the A380 in a long time? I'm sure there's a collective sigh of relief in Toulouse.

Airbus signs $25bn deal to sell 118 planes to Iran - BBC News

 

[juddles]

I hope it wasn't "subject to oil regaining value"

 

[TomVexille]

Second order. NH agreed to take 3 recently IIRC.

 

[dajop]

Second order. NH agreed to take 3 recently IIRC.

That perhaps wasn't a "pure" order in the sense of a new order to a new customer, wasn't it linked to ANA's investment in Skymark, (with their bankruptcy, cancelled A380 order and Airbus being major creditor)?

 

[TomVexille]

That perhaps wasn't a "pure" order in the sense of a new order to a new customer, wasn't it linked to ANA's investment in Skymark, (with their bankruptcy, cancelled A380 order and Airbus being major creditor)?

True, but a major coup for Airbus to get the 380 into the Japanese market and to keep chipping away at Boeings dominance in Japan.

 

[kelvedon]

I hope it wasn't "subject to oil regaining value"

I wouldn't be surprised if the price was part paid in oil barrels. The article does say deal is subject to US export licenses as some components are made in the US. Shouldnt think that would be a problem since Boeing aircraft are also on their shopping list.

Iran eyes Boeing plane purchases as sanctions end - BBC News

 

[jb747]

It will ultimately make very little difference. Apart from Emirates, I doubt that many of the outstanding orders will ever be filled.

 

[bsb]

True, but a major coup for Airbus to get the 380 into the Japanese market and to keep chipping away at Boeings dominance in Japan.

Yes but just 3 only plying the route to HNL is hardly compelling.

 

[dajop]

It will ultimately make very little difference. Apart from Emirates, I doubt that many of the outstanding orders will ever be filled.

It seems VS won't be taking theirs. I'd expect that EY & QR would take their remaining orders, IIRC SQ might be taking theirs (replacement??), and QF's last eight - they seem unlikely?

What is interesting, three of the original airlines that ordered A380's have essentially gone bankrupt - Kingfisher, TransAero and Skymark - before taking any aircraft. And two more probably would have gone bankrupt if left to market forces - MH & probably TG.

 

[kelvedon]

It will ultimately make very little difference. Apart from Emirates, I doubt that many of the outstanding orders will ever be filled.

So does anyone know how much of a commitment an airline has to make when it "orders" an aircraft. I'm sure it varies from deal to deal, but there must be some sort of deposit, surely?

 

[Himeno]

Second order. NH agreed to take 3 recently IIRC.

I have yet to see anything that confirms that rumor.

 

[Boris spatsky]

I have yet to see anything that confirms that rumor.

Confirmed today.

http://centreforaviation.com/analys...-return-for-invaluable-skymark-support-260531

 

[TomVexille]

Yes but just 3 only plying the route to HNL is hardly compelling.

You never know. They might just decide that it's a great aircraft and order more. That's what Airbus will be hoping anyway.

 

[JohnPhelan]

If I was Monsieur Airbus, I'd be wanting to see the Iranians' cash - all of it - before lifting a finger.

 

[bsb]

If I was Monsieur Airbus, I'd be wanting to see the Iranians' cash - all of it - before lifting a finger.

johnphelan, I always like your responses