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Just off the top, a few Victorian producers maybe not so well known that I think represent good value compared to RWT/Penfolds: Warrabilla if like 'em big. The Parola range is great value. You can get them from the winery or Nicks ($35); Anderson's while we in the Rutherglen region -...

TWE have progressively taken all value from the Penfolds range. All are over priced these days IMO. I used to buy some or all of 389, 407, 128, 28 & 138 at release every year from Dan's when they used to have good release pricing but these days I'd be lucky to buy a case of 389 in a good vintage.

Sounds like bottle some variation - ie quality control issues at III Associates. Shame becasue historically the Squid Ink varieties have been very good IMO.

Thanks redbigot, I'll pull one of the Black Bay bottltes from the cellar and give it a try. I got them when first offerred. I always wonder about large discounts from VM for wines that should sell without 50% discounts.

I bought the Black Bay but it's in the cellar so haven't had one yet. Bought on reputatiuon - never had a bad III Associates. Mate who also bought it said it was good. Sorry no TNs

https://www.vinomofo.com/wines/red-wine/pre-arrival-black-market-pinot-noir-2016?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VM%2025%2005%202019%201400%20V%202%20Pre-Arrival&utm_content=VM%2025%2005%202019%201400%20V%202%20Pre-Arrival+CID_a1cf50da1c669bb115d28d0fde439176&utm_source=Email%20Marketing&utm_term=P...

Interesting review. Reading between the lines he isn't confiden it will age well. My rule is that any wine on the discount market that has a bad review is probably not worth buying. Tastes are pesonal and reviews can vary but wines are generally discounted either because they are selling for...

It's Petaluma Evans - I've had it confirmed. I havent tried this vintage but it's generally a good wine. Probably on the expensive side at RRR. Nick's had it for just under $60. At $35 I bought some.

2013 vintage of the Rockbare Cutie on Nicks if inbterested in the wine: 2013 Rockbare Coonawarra Cutie Cabernet Sauvignon - Premium - $15 - $40

Love to get your feedback. I like the Meshach as a rule was put off by reviews and the discounting. Pur 2 & 2 together... If it's not a good wine $90ish is pricey. If it's up to usual standard it's a decent price IMO. Other vintages often go for less on Langtons unreserved auctions so you...

Thanks. I haven't tried it before. I was intending on putting it in the cellar for a couple of years. I might have to try one first now...

I can confirm (via broker)

Yes he did. I read a response from John Middleton to Parker's review (a long time ago) taking aim at Parker's stylistic liking for the big reds but there was some tension beforehand. Middleton didn't have much time for critics or the secondary market.

Interesting read. Dr John Middleton had some interesting views on Robert Parker and the ability to articulate them.

Tend to agree. Bob Campbell & NZ wine - deduct plenty.

Australian wine reviews and point scores in particular are a disgrace. Unmitigated BS. Try and find a published reviewfrom a major "critic" of a known winery's product that is disparaging. The number of 94+ point wines is farcicle. I don't pay any attention to reviews any more or at least...

Sold out when I tried to check on the magnum. Good deal if you can get it

If you call VM and ask if they have it they will tell you.

I've never tried it but thanks for the input W&D. 96 points for a $20 wine seems high though.

Not VM but I got an email from Nicks that contained this: 2017 Epsilon Shiraz - Premium - $15 - $40