End of an Era? QF ends A380 operations ex MEL 24 October 2026

[Quickstatus]

I see daily posts about social media checking.

That's fine you believe what you want. ,
again, the point is that at least a significant % of the circa 90,000/month who travel to the US who are not US citizens, also see a different USA

However I could never describe a country which has more guns than people as "welcoming".

Thats fine, no one saying you have to travel there.

My point remains that it is objectively false to say there is no demand for travel to USA from Australia or that the passengers on the transpacific route are only US citizens going home.

Circa 90,000 people outbound a month to USA says so.

 

[JessicaTam]

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A separate thread has been created specifically for discussion regarding retiming QF93 and the extension of QF10 to MEL

Thread 'Demise of A380 ex MEL coincides with retimed QF93 and extension of QF10 to MEL'

Monday at 2:04 PM

It appears that the demise of the A380 from QF93 also comes with a retiming of QF93 from 0945 hrs to 2245hrs, and an extension of QF10 PER-MEL

QF93 2245-- 1905
There is no retiming of QF94
However QF10 PER-MEL arrives in MEL at 2045

Perhaps the retiming of QF93 allows better utilisation of a 787-9 and gives PER customers an easy connection to LAX
However, the downside is the potential for delays in the the QF9/10 sectors extending to QF93, and onward connections ex QF93 would be very difficult
This domino effect of delays were evident at MEL when QF were operating QF9/10 via DXB using...

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Not every post discussing the new topic has been moved, as they were still relevant to the A380 discussion.
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[supersonic]

QF just do not value or respect MEL. Until last weekend the only international airport without a curfew and the only maor airport with integrated domestic and international terminals making transfer simple.
Flying via SYD is awful and a total waste of time.
Thanksfully BA will be starting soon and first our of MEL on a OW airline remains an option.

 

[AIRwin]

Thanksfully BA will be starting soon and first our of MEL on a OW airline remains an option.

BA resuming and AY has recently launched

 

[OZDUCK]

Perth has not had a curfew in at least the last 50 years. And has been an international airport since 1944. Brisbane, Adelaide, Darwin and Hobart are also curfew free.

 

[AIRwin]

Brisbane, Adelaide, Darwin and Hobart are also curfew free.

I believe ADL has a curfew?

 

[OZDUCK]

I believe ADL has a curfew?

Quite right - I obviously can't read or possibly remember.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

BA resuming and AY has recently launched

Yes but AY has no F.

 

[AIRwin]

Yes but AY has no F.

Other than in its name

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Other than in its name

And almost no airline has Y in its name, , therefore only Sky Angkor Airlines and Syphax Airlines have economy cabins.

Although here is an example of an AI hallucination:

 

[Franky]

Perth has not had a curfew in at least the last 50 years. And has been an international airport since 1944. Brisbane, Adelaide, Darwin and Hobart are also curfew free.

You beat me to it Ozduck….

 

[Aussie_flyer]

QF just do not value or respect MEL. Until last weekend the only international airport without a curfew and the only maor airport with integrated domestic and international terminals making transfer simple.
Flying via SYD is awful and a total waste of time.
Thanksfully BA will be starting soon and first our of MEL on a OW airline remains an option.

I think you are being a bit dramatic frankly. Qantas serve internationally ex Melbourne:

Auckland, Christchurch, Dallas, Bali, Hong Kong, Jakarta, Los Angeles, Queenstown, Singapore, Tokyo and Wellington directly. Plus London and New York accessible all on Qantas with a single stop as they have been for some years.

What is it that you demand that they don't do? Sydney is the main hub of Qantas, they can't replicate that at every port but they have a very significant presence at Melbourne.

Also, just because the A380 doesn't feature ex Melbourne in the current 26/27 schedule doesn't mean it won't be reallocated to Melbourne again at some future time.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Sydney is the main hub of Qantas,

I think that sums up the problem for everyone who lives anywhere other than Sydney.
It's not just their main hub. It's all they care about.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I think that sums up the problem for everyone who lives anywhere other than Sydney.
It's not just their main hub. It's all they care about.

And I disagree with you as per the list of places served ex Melbourne. They have mini intl hubs at Melbourne Brisbane and Perth . How many hubs does BA have ? AY? SQ? TG? CX? Answer: one

 

[esseeeayeenn]

And I disagree with you as per the list of places served ex Melbourne. They have mini intl hubs at Melbourne Brisbane and Perth . How many hubs does BA have ? AY? SQ? TG? CX? Answer: one

BA has many hubs.
There is only one major city in Finland.
In both Singapore and Hong Kong, the city and the country are synonymous.
There isn't room for a second airport, never mind a second hub.

I am not talking only about flights.
The whole mentality of QF means it is the spirit of Sydney. not the spirit of Australia.

 

[drron]

BA has many hubs.
There is only one major city in Finland.
In both Singapore and Hong Kong, the city and the country are synonymous.
There isn't room for a second airport, never mind a second hub.

I am not talking only about flights.
The whole mentality of QF means it is the spirit of Sydney. not the spirit of Australia.

Though Singapore currently operates 4 Air force bases one of which is the old International airport of Paya Lebar.
We flew into Paya Lebar on the last QF flight to land there. That night they removed all equipment and setup ready for operation next morning at Changi. We stayed 5 nights in Singapore and then flew CX from Changi.

 

[elanshin]

BA has many hubs.
There is only one major city in Finland.
In both Singapore and Hong Kong, the city and the country are synonymous.
There isn't room for a second airport, never mind a second hub.

I am not talking only about flights.
The whole mentality of QF means it is the spirit of Sydney. not the spirit of Australia.

In all honesty, that's not just a QF problem - it's how the world views Australia.
Sydney is globally the first thing people think about when you talk about Australia.
Melbourne is a little bit after that but mainly on the map because of the sports that happen.

The demand to and from Sydney is just greater than just about everywhere else in Australia internationally.

But honestly I think all the actions right now can be mainly summed up with a fleet problem. I imagine we'd see a lot more services out of MEL if QF had a dozen more flying widebodies. Possibly even BNE and PER.

If we look back in time, MEL was the first 787 hub for QF and pretty much the only way to get on the 787 at the time was to fly via MEL. SYD was relegated to the aging 747s for a lot of the routes and as much as I liked the 747s, I'd much rather have flown on the 787 (and did deliberately fly via MEL back from SFO in 2019).

 

[esseeeayeenn]

In all honesty, that's not just a QF problem - it's how the world views Australia.
Sydney is globally the first thing people think about when you talk about Australia.
Melbourne is a little bit after that but mainly on the map because of the sports that happen.

The demand to and from Sydney is just greater than just about everywhere else in Australia internationally.

But honestly I think all the actions right now can be mainly summed up with a fleet problem. I imagine we'd see a lot more services out of MEL if QF had a dozen more flying widebodies. Possibly even BNE and PER.

If we look back in time, MEL was the first 787 hub for QF and pretty much the only way to get on the 787 at the time was to fly via MEL. SYD was relegated to the aging 747s for a lot of the routes and as much as I liked the 747s, I'd much rather have flown on the 787 (and did deliberately fly via MEL back from SFO in 2019).

Yes but the two are related.
Joyce was utterly fixated on project sunrise which is very much a Sydney-centric project.
His failure to renew the fleet is responsible for the lack of wide-bodies on domestic routes today.