Is Velocity almost defunct for long-haul business class rewards?

I use VA points to book SQ PE if required, only during busy school holidays or Xmas -New Year break. SQ Y and J saver awards are very hard to find.

I just booked SQ PE SIN-BNE for 4 of us on 57.5k VA points (eqv 37.1k KF miles) each person for mid January as one of their flights are upgraded to A350 LH with PE. It works out much cheaper than booking at SQ direct (53.5k KF miles), and not much more than Booking Y on SQ direct (29k KF miles).

It certainly is much cheaper than buying ticket on cash during those peak period.
 
As everyone on this thread knows the biggest issue is that you cannot book SQ awards with Velocity points until 332 days out while SQ releases awards at 355 days - these are snapped up (in J) within hours. So if you really want that SQ award seat you really need to transfer your Velocity points to SQ and book very early (of course it's more expensive in points but at least you get the seat you want). In more recent times even on the SQ site awards are scarce but they are there - you may need to be flexible on your final destination (in Europe) - e.g. forget MUC and ZRH but AMS, CPH and usually FRA even LHR are good options.
 
Flew SQ PE couple weeks ago SIN-MEL, didn't really rate it, for double points/cost, it's ok if have plenty points in ACC but it's only marginally better imo.

I don't mind SQ PE as a product (for a daytime flight, anyway). But in some cases Velocity charges almost as many points - or even the same amount of points on some routes - as a business reward. That really doesn't represent good value, relative to the business class option (if available).
 
I don't mind SQ PE as a product (for a daytime flight, anyway). But in some cases Velocity charges almost as many points - or even the same amount of points on some routes - as a business reward. That really doesn't represent good value, relative to the business class option (if available).
My trip in SQ PE was an o/n flight & I didn't find it much easier to sleep for any decent period than economy. Day flight I'd agree with you.

Also as a family with young ones, the fact you can't lift the arm rest is not convenient at all. I understand that's a general PE seat thing.
 
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One of the problems with using Velocity for PE awards is that you can’t readily tack an economy leg on. The break in class means effectively being charged twice.

A case in point is flying KUL-SIN-MEL. I was eyeing this off (as there’s plenty of PE SIN-MEL availability on the days when I want to travel but no Y at convenient times) but the issue is that KUL-SIN is only available in Y or J. This means effectively being charged for separate KUL-SIN and SIN-MEL awards, rather than KUL-MEL under Velocity faring (SQ would allow me to call in). The points needed end up not too far off a business award.
 

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