Virgin Bali expansion, next up CBR-DPS

[AIRwin]

Announced by Chief Minister:

 

[bussyboy]

Surely CBR-SIN would be more useful, with VAs partnership with SQ to connect to the rest of the world.

 

[AIRwin]

Surely CBR-SIN would be more useful, with VAs partnership with SQ to connect to the rest of the world.

But it didn't even work for SQ?

 

[HS-TQE]

Definitely didn't see this one coming, but with the start date towards the end of the 25/26 financial year, I wonder if Virgin are expecting a small if not moderate fleet growth for 26/27.

 

[AirAdl]

When is Adl Bali coming back

 

[Saab34]

Definitely didn't see this one coming, but with the start date towards the end of the 25/26 financial year, I wonder if Virgin are expecting a small if not moderate fleet growth for 26/27.

Will probably just use one of the two aircraft that would sit idle overnight at CBR, only really costing an afternoon in utilisation.

The route will not operate in Feb or March.

 

[serfty]

Announced by Chief Minister:
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What chief Minister? Who's flying it? Link?

 

[AIRwin]

What chief Minister? Who's flying it? Link?

#canberra | Andrew Barr

Virgin Australia is launching its first-ever international route out of #Canberra, with three return flights per week to Bali (April-January) and the potential for more during peak periods. The flights will start on 22 June and depart on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays, with afternoon...

www.linkedin.com

 

[simmomelb]

I'll give it 6 months before they pull the route.

 

[HS-TQE]

I'll give it 6 months before they pull the route.

Depends if there's airport, private or even territory subsidies involved for the flights, if so it'll be at least 2 seasons minimum.

 

[simmomelb]

Exec Traveller: https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-launches-canberra-bali-flights

 

[Saab34]

They should do better compared to Batik as they will be able to funnel through a whole bunch of connections.

Batik was only doing around 30-50 people per flight.

I think TSV would have been a better opportunity or even HBA.

 

[eastwest101]

They should do better compared to Batik as they will be able to funnel through a whole bunch of connections.

Batik was only doing around 30-50 people per flight.

I think TSV would have been a better opportunity or even HBA.

But connections from where is the question isn't it? Passengers can already fly direct to Bali on numerous airlines at far less cost from SYD MEL BNE OOL ADL etc - I can't see how anyone would be interested in transiting CBR unless it was for a VA status run given that domestic airfares into and out of CBR from anywhere are often sky-high anyway. This is only going to succeed or fail because of CBR end subsidies and the actual outbound demand ex-CBR itself, which is quite a wealthy city, so its possible.

I agree that they will do better than Batik and that either CNS TSV or even HBA might have been a better option.

 

[simmomelb]

But connections from where is the question isn't it? Passengers can already fly direct to Bali on numerous airlines at far less cost from SYD MEL BNE OOL ADL etc - I can't see how anyone would be interested in transiting CBR unless it was for a VA status run given that domestic airfares into and out of CBR from anywhere are often sky-high anyway. This is only going to succeed or fail because of CBR end subsidies and the actual outbound demand ex-CBR itself, which is quite a wealthy city, so its possible.

Wealthy people fly to Bali?

At least they'll get a lounge on this short-haul route out of CBR!

 

[eastwest101]

Wealthy people fly to Bali?

I expect so - it seems a pretty popular destination for all Australians and particularly families across the board at the moment, due to reasonable cost of accommodation, the relatively lower price of airfares, and how expensive it is to holiday within Australia, and popular especially for places in Australia that have colder winters (as an "escape from winter).

I think if I lived in CBR I would consider flying this (at least on the outbound daytime flight) if I was going to Bali rather than the clust@#%* that is transiting international in BNE or SYD or paying additional $$ to go via MEL, which at least has everything under one roof.

Obviously DPS is pretty well connected internationally, (although International transit is still maybe a bit of a PITA?) so there might be some CBR residents who would treat this as a good way to relocate themselves to DPS for onward reasonable-priced international flights further afield.

 

[Harrison_133]

Initial schedule:

VA127 CBR 1520 DPS 2005 73H Day 6
VA127 CBR 1610 DPS 2055 73H Day 13

VA128 DPS 2145 CBR 0535 +1 73H Day 6
VA128 DPS 2210 CBR 0600 +1 73H Day 13

Service is seasonal and will operate April-January, with scope to increase frequency in peak periods.

Same day connections are available to BNE, OOL, MEL and SYD.

Connections will be a big part of this add. The bilateral between Indonesia and major AU ports is exhausted so they have to get creative if they want to add DPS capacity.

They already carry a surprising amount of connecting traffic on their OOL-DPS flights, so I don't think they'll have any trouble getting people to connect in CBR too.

 

[aikman]

It could work. Outbound schedule is more leisure friendly than Batik's. If the Canberran wants to fly home on a day without a direct flight, VA can offer flights connecting in other cities. Not to mention Velocity earn & burn.

 

[PERLHR]

Obviously DPS is pretty well connected internationally, (although International transit is still maybe a bit of a PITA?) so there might be some CBR residents who would treat this as a good way to relocate themselves to DPS for onward reasonable-priced international flights further afield.

This to me is a winner...and why I was so mad at VA not executing properly their "thoughts" of PER-DPS. Onward connections at good cost. .and a couple of days in Bali on the return.

 

[Happy Dude]

Depends if there's airport, private or even territory subsidies involved for the flights, if so it'll be at least 2 seasons minimum.

I suspect there is such subsidies from somewhere but that didn't stop Batik from pulling services after just four months. Maybe the scheduling and not-Batik Air factors will give it more legs.

I'm quite interested in this as I'm in CBR and my company has just initiated a "work remotely away from home" policy.

 

[LionKing]

Initial schedule:

VA127 CBR 1520 DPS 2005 73H Day 6
VA127 CBR 1610 DPS 2055 73H Day 13

VA128 DPS 2145 CBR 0535 +1 73H Day 6
VA128 DPS 2210 CBR 0600 +1 73H Day 13

Service is seasonal and will operate April-January, with scope to increase frequency in peak periods.

Same day connections are available to BNE, OOL, MEL and SYD.

Connections will be a big part of this add. The bilateral between Indonesia and major AU ports is exhausted so they have to get creative if they want to add DPS capacity.

They already carry a surprising amount of connecting traffic on their OOL-DPS flights, so I don't think they'll have any trouble getting people to connect in CBR too.

Is it possible to connect with SQ947?

If yes, then it is game changer for the ACT.