New Qantas route - Perth to Paris from July 2024

[PERLHR]

Does QF actually code share with BA or any one world "partner" on this route?

 

[jrfsp]

Does QF actually code share with BA or any one world "partner" on this route?

Only EK

 

[SYD]

Only EK

Are you sure? I couldn’t find anything besides AF.

 

[jrfsp]

Are you sure? I couldn’t find anything besides AF.

EK5084, unless the codeshare is only available on the domestic leg, not the intl?

 

[Mwenenzi]

Does QF actually code share with BA or any one world "partner" on this route?

https://www.perthairport.com.au/flights/departures-and-arrivals/qf3420250704d

Perth DestinationSydney
QantasQF34
Departure10:59
Code-sharing airlines
American AirlinesAA7297
EmiratesEK5114

And

AA7297 - American Airlines AA 7297 Flight Tracker

AA7297 Flight Tracker - Track the real-time flight status of American Airlines AA 7297 live using the FlightStats Global Flight Tracker. See if your flight has been delayed or cancelled and track the live position on a map.

www.flightstats.com

 

[SYD]

https://www.perthairport.com.au/flights/departures-and-arrivals/qf3420250704d

And

AA7297 - American Airlines AA 7297 Flight Tracker

AA7297 Flight Tracker - Track the real-time flight status of American Airlines AA 7297 live using the FlightStats Global Flight Tracker. See if your flight has been delayed or cancelled and track the live position on a map.

www.flightstats.com

Odd, I looked at FlightStats - which usually shows codeshares - but didn’t for me…

 

[Digicola]

https://www.perthairport.com.au/flights/departures-and-arrivals/qf3420250704d

And

AA7297 - American Airlines AA 7297 Flight Tracker

AA7297 Flight Tracker - Track the real-time flight status of American Airlines AA 7297 live using the FlightStats Global Flight Tracker. See if your flight has been delayed or cancelled and track the live position on a map.

www.flightstats.com

But this is the domestic leg not the intl leg no? International leg only displays EK?

 

[jrfsp]

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/qantas-air-france-klm

AF code to be added to the CDG flight

 

[60165636]

I'm pretty sure the EK codeshare is only for the domestic leg. I was denied entry into the Paris EK lounge only 2 weeks ago due to the fact that Paris to Perth is not codeshared with EK and therefore lounge use agreements didn't apply. I tried out of desperation as the Paul Maxence lounge was grim.

 

[SYD]

I'm pretty sure the EK codeshare is only for the domestic leg. I was denied entry into the Paris EK lounge only 2 weeks ago due to the fact that Paris to Perth is not codeshared with EK and therefore lounge use agreements didn't apply. I tried out of desperation as the Paul Maxence lounge was grim.

Yep, that's mentioned in the article.

The earlier post is only the SYD<->PER (Domestic) sectors. I hadnt noticed the "Perth Destination Sydney" detail lurking in that post.

 

[kamchatsky]

With the recent Points Plane offer for QF33/34, and now $800 off offer from QF to Paris, sooner or later this route will go to seasonal only. Surprising that the load is not high even it runs only 3 days per week.

 

[PERLHR]

With the recent Points Plane offer for QF33/34, and now $800 off offer from QF to Paris, sooner or later this route will go to seasonal only. Surprising that the load is not high even it runs only 3 days per week.

Yes it is surprising that PER to CDG, one of Europe's biggest and appealing one would think, is maybe struggling yet London works ok despite I assume higher taxes. Never mind they can pull it and put it on Bali ex PER, that would work! .not really sure if the price QF offer to Paris is that compatible against the one stop ops of other carriers.

 

[Sabot]

Yes it is surprising that PER to CDG, one of Europe's biggest and appealing one would think, is maybe struggling yet London works ok despite I assume higher taxes. Never mind they can pull it and put it on Bali ex PER, that would work! .not really sure if the price QF offer to Paris is that compatible against the one stop ops of other carriers.

Qantas charges the most and aren't even the 3rd best airline flying to Europe from Australia.

 

[flyguy77]

With the recent Points Plane offer for QF33/34, and now $800 off offer from QF to Paris, sooner or later this route will go to seasonal only.

Qantas is kidding themselves with their pricing both for cash tickets and reward seats

Even with billions of points floating about they didn't appear to sell many seats on the points planes to Paris.

 

[BNEFlyer]

Qantas charges the most and aren't even the 3rd best airline flying to Europe from Australia.

I live in Brisbane, so QF are never on the radar for a Europe flight (mainly due to price, but also I'm not taking a 5 hour flight on a 737 first), especially when I have the option of SQ/QR/EK/CX/BR/CI/KE among others.

 

[CaptJCool]

Qantas charges the most and aren't even the 3rd best airline flying to Europe from Australia.

When You price yourself out of the market, passengers go elsewhere

Aside NZ where Air NZ and QF Roughly 50% each (and I took the flight Melb - Christchurch with just 40 PAX)
their other routes are lucky to carry 15% of all international PAX (plus JQ is more)

The other Airlines offer better service, connections etc

QF Hope that a non-stop service would enable Them to charge 25% price premium is exactly what you think - profiteering over carrying PAX
And since a whole range of other airlines are as safe and cheaper here we are

 

[Daver6]

I'd imagine another part of the problem is lack of OneWorld connecting flights to elsewhere in Europe.

 

[SYD]

I'd imagine another part of the problem is lack of OneWorld connecting flights to elsewhere in Europe.

If you booking via QF, wouldn’t you just go with a one stop EK codeshare for other Euro destinations?

CDG is presumably intended to be primarily a point to point service - with some domestic codeshare flights on AF (some of which EK won’t get you there).

 

[Daver6]

If you booking via QF, wouldn’t you just go with a one stop EK codeshare for other Euro destinations?

CDG is presumably intended to be primarily a point to point service - with some domestic codeshare flights on AF (some of which EK won’t get you there).

I can think of two reasons why CDG or LHR might be preferable.

Firstly and this is just personal having done both, but I'd rather one long flight than the 11 hours to the ME plus then another lengthy flight.

Secondly, as a WP with a bunch of points, I can upgrade on QF but I can't on EK. So flying to western Europe, I'd pick a QF flight to LHR and connect on BA. A similar option via CDG is lacking and suspect that has to hurt loads.

Forgetting LHR slots, I reckon QF would make more money putting those CDG flights as second flights to LHR.

 

[PERLHR]

If you booking via QF, wouldn’t you just go with a one stop EK codeshare for other Euro destinations?

CDG is presumably intended to be primarily a point to point service - with some domestic codeshare flights on AF (some of which EK won’t get you there).

Thought AF had or are dumping domestics ...or most of them in favour of trains? A lot can be said for Oneworld anyway if routing via LHR for plenty of euro connections with BA.