Oman Air Vs QR business

[RooFlyer]

Has anyone flown Oman Air and QR long-haul in business and can give a comparison of the overall experience?

I'm a QR regular but would like to try Oman, but need to be convinced it’s going to be compatible.

 

[MELso]

Can't say I've flown WY, but on their 787s, they use the same Apex suites as JAL, but note that some flights to MCT out of KUL are on a 737 with recliners so be careful. The lounge in MCT looks pretty good too.

QR's QSuite is a nice product, but it's something of a lottery whether you get them. J on the 787 is pretty squeezy notwithstanding the suite doors. But there's caviar, and their lounges in DOH, SIN and BKK are great.

 

[RooFlyer]

Can't say I've flown WY, but on their 787s, they use the same Apex suites as JAL, but note that some flights to MCT out of KUL are on a 737 with recliners so be careful. The lounge in MCT looks pretty good too.

QR's QSuite is a nice product, but it's something of a lottery whether you get them. J on the 787 is pretty squeezy notwithstanding the suite doors. But there's caviar, and their lounges in DOH, SIN and BKK are great.

yes years ago I flew Oman air business regionally and it was awful..

I have flown QR business a lot, so much so that I was willing to look at Omsn just for the hell of it. The old QSuite switch lottery is much less of an issue these days now they’ve got more aircraft after their airbus dispute came to an end.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Oman’s apex suites are fantastic… more like a first class suite. Service was fine, food was ok… on par with a reasonable ME3 offering, but nothing memorable in terms of presentation.

If you want to try something different, give them a go, it’s always fun to try something new.

 

[RooFlyer]

Drat - Oman don’t serve the Iberian Peninsula which is where I want to depart from to come back home. QR serve both Lisbon and Malaga which are options for me

Have to see just how much I want to try something new.

My travel agent has told me or reminded me that Oman may partner with QR on certain routes. But it would still be a QR flight X Lisbon if that was the case.

 

[Cossie]

My only issue with Oman is the inflight entertainment, way too focused on US stuff, imo.

Music selections not great either, of course, imo.

I like the seats, food offerings, again, imo, good.

It has been a few years since I have flown Qatar, so I can’t really comment on them.

 

[clifford]

Given the choice, I'd probably choose QR on most days. Hard product wise there isn't a huge difference, although I prefer the Q-Suite. Soft product wise, it depends on the crew. You can have good and not so good on either airline, although WY are perhaps a little more consistent as they don't seem to scour the world so much for their staff.

When it comes to ground handling, I think QR is much better than WY at their hubs in the ME. WY can be a little like the wild west at MCT, especially when it comes to boarding (a free for all), and their lounge is rather glitzy but nothing special IMO.

For me it would depend on how much cheaper WY were for my journey.

 

[RooFlyer]

I like the seats, food offerings, again, imo, good.

Are they full width foot rest on all seats in that picture? Not a cubbyhole? that’s a very big plus for me. . IFE I’m not fussed about.

especially when it comes to boarding (a free for all)

yeah that’s what I remember about the regional flight I took years ago. A free for all and sitting in a very hot bus while they sorted out the free for all jammed everyone on. Not a happy memory but I’m willing to forgive and forget.

For me it would depend on how much cheaper WY were for my journey.

i’ll report back on the fare differences when I get them.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Are they full width foot rest on all seats in that picture? Not a cubbyhole? that’s a very big plus for me. . IFE I’m not fussed about.



yeah that’s what I remember about the regional flight I took years ago. A free for all and sitting in a very hot bus while they sorted out the free for all jammed everyone on. Not a happy memory but I’m willing to forgive and forget.



i’ll report back on the fare differences when I get them.

Oh yeah… Alex suites are full length, forward facing, full width all the way to the feet..no cubby holes.

The window suites are slightly longer, about 7 foot long. And completely private.

I reckon it’s the best business class seat out there, puts plenty of first class seats to shame.

They’re not popular with airlines because they take up too much real estate

 

[Cossie]

Are they full width foot rest on all seats in that picture? Not a cubbyhole? that’s a very big plus for me. . IFE I’m not fussed about.

Yes, full width. As per the above post.

 

[jase05]

I do love the WY seats and I’ve had some excellent flights with them and would absolutely fly with them again. In most areas they are just that notch below QR but still a very good product and worth trying out if you haven’t before

 

[RooFlyer]

Prelim pricing from my TA (that is, not the exact route I want, and not factoring a connecting flight LIS-CDG I'd have to take for WY), is that the return fare ex Australia (using QF SYD-BKK-SYD) is abt 25% less than QR.

If that holds, I'm sold. Just have to wait a year

BTW, QR having a fare increase from midnight Sunday.

 

[SYD]

I do love the WY seats and I’ve had some excellent flights with them and would absolutely fly with them again. In most areas they are just that notch below QR but still a very good product and worth trying out if you haven’t before

I see that there are/were some dry lease flights. WY aircraft, QR crew, F&B, entertainment. Just to blur the lines a little!

Prelim pricing from my TA (that is, not the exact route I want, and not factoring a connecting flight LIS-CDG I'd have to take for WY), is that the return fare ex Australia (using QF SYD-BKK-SYD) is abt 25% less than QR.

Is that points or pay SYD-BKK? Quite hard (impossible) using points DIY.

Pity WY don’t fly to CGK or MNL (that would open up some more possibilities). Mind you, I’ve paid just over A$3k CGK-Euro on QR J recently. Sub $4k is normal.

If that holds, I'm sold. Just have to wait a year

I thought I saw a WY fare ex Oz to Euro for circa A$5k. Pretty sure it was on MH metal to KUL then onwards. Assuming WY land in the QF earning tables the same as most other partners, that would earn similar to doing AY. Assuming the Oz-KUL flights are in WY code (not MH).

BTW, QR having a fare increase from midnight Sunday.

Across the board, or just what you’re looking at?

 

[MELso]

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Pity WY don’t fly to CGK or MNL (that would open up some more possibilities). Mind you, I’ve paid just over A$3k CGK-Euro on QR J recently. Sub $4k is normal.

I thought I saw a WY fare ex Oz to Euro for circa A$5k. Pretty sure it was on MH metal to KUL then onwards. Assuming WY land in the QF earning tables the same as most other partners, that would earn similar to doing AY. Assuming the Oz-KUL flights are in WY code (not MH)...

WY do fly to both CGK and MNL.

The ~$5k fares you're seeing are likely mixed class (Y to KUL on MH, then J on WY to Europe).

 

[SYD]

WY do fly to both CGK and MNL.

That’s what I thought but a route map I just looked at only showed KUL and BKK…

The ~$5k fares you're seeing are likely mixed class (Y to KUL on MH, then J on WY to Europe).

No, it was J all the way.

This might be what I was thinking about - a bit longer ago than I thought.

Thread 'SYD/MEL to Europe on Oman for <$6k!'

Sep 19, 2023

Oman air seem to be having a great sale to Europe, from at least MEL and SIN. Currently seeing via BKK (with Thai air) or KUL (MH) to IST for $5636. Looks like one free stopover and unlimited others at $75.

Playing with it now ... fare rules below, but I can't seem to book it on Oman air website. If any lurking travel agents want to help me book one, feel free to hit me up! (happy to pay of course).

General notes​

BASIC SEASON BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL R
FARES
APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT

Category 3: Seasonal restrictions​

PERMITTED 11JAN THROUGH 09DEC...

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But pretty sure I saw something on ITA matrix doing a search a couple of months ago.

 

[MELso]

That’s what I thought but a route map I just looked at only showed KUL and BKK…

No, it was J all the way.

This might be what I was thinking about - a bit longer ago than I thought.

Thread 'SYD/MEL to Europe on Oman for <$6k!'

Sep 19, 2023

Oman air seem to be having a great sale to Europe, from at least MEL and SIN. Currently seeing via BKK (with Thai air) or KUL (MH) to IST for $5636. Looks like one free stopover and unlimited others at $75.

Playing with it now ... fare rules below, but I can't seem to book it on Oman air website. If any lurking travel agents want to help me book one, feel free to hit me up! (happy to pay of course).

General notes​

BASIC SEASON BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL R
FARES
APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
FOR ADULT

Category 3: Seasonal restrictions​

PERMITTED 11JAN THROUGH 09DEC...

• k_sheep
• Replies: 11
• Forum: Cheap Flights & Travel Deals

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But pretty sure I saw something on ITA matrix doing a search a couple of months ago.

They're about $6.5k-$7k now. Still good value if the connections are okay.

 

[RooFlyer]

Is that points or pay SYD-BKK? Quite hard (impossible) using points DIY.

Pay. I have been in the habit of catching SQ award to Singapore and flying on QR from there but the fare and connection through Bangkok while not exactly too good to miss seems good value so I’ll save the award for another time.

Pity WY don’t fly to CGK or MNL (that would open up some more possibilities). Mind you, I’ve paid just over A$3k CGK-Euro on QR J recently. Sub $4k is normal.

Noted above they do do CGK which is what I asked the TA to look for originally, but the connections don’t work for me.

I thought I saw a WY fare ex Oz to Euro for circa A$5k. Pretty sure it was on MH metal to KUL then onwards. Assuming WY land in the QF earning tables the same as most other partners, that would earn similar to doing AY. Assuming the Oz-KUL flights are in WY code (not MH).

At the moment, I’m looking at $7K return from Sydney ( with QF at the start and end) but itinerary not finalised yet. I'm not a fan of MH but I’ll get the pricing on that, thanks. I'm pretty particular about my connections these days so sometimes I find myself paying a slightly higher fare to get exactly what I want.

Across the board, or just what you’re looking at?

She read out the advice she had just received from QR and it was ambiguous. She thinks it’s across the board ex Australia.

 

[I love to travel]

Pay. I have been in the habit of catching SQ award to Singapore and flying on QR from there but the fare and connection through Bangkok while not exactly too good to miss seems good value so I’ll save the award for another time.


Noted above they do do CGK which is what I asked the TA to look for originally, but the connections don’t work for me.



At the moment, I’m looking at $7K return from Sydney ( with QF at the start and end) but itinerary not finalised yet. I'm not a fan of MH but I’ll get the pricing on that, thanks. I'm pretty particular about my connections these days so sometimes I find myself paying a slightly higher fare to get exactly what I want.



She read out the advice she had just received from QR and it was ambiguous. She thinks it’s across the board ex Australia.

Re I have been in the habit of catching SQ award to Singapore and flying on QR from there but the fare and connection through Bangkok while not exactly too good to miss seems good value so I’ll save the award for another time.

The likely upcoming SQ devaluation might influence your later decision here. Earn and burn on SQ would be prudent ATM until the situation becomes clearer

 

[RooFlyer]

The likely upcoming SQ devaluation might influence your later decision here. Earn and burn on SQ would be prudent ATM until the situation becomes clearer

good suggestion, thanks!

 

[jase05]

I see that there are/were some dry lease flights. WY aircraft, QR crew, F&B, entertainment. Just to blur the lines a little!

Yes QR and WY are VERY cosy and QR have dry leased some aircraft from WY