Virgin 737-8 Max Business Class - No Divider

[SeaWolf]

So let me get this right.
Pax pissed off because no divider and Y pax coming up to use the lav.
Pax pissed off because they don't like the curtain, which is a divider to keep Y pax out of the J cabin.

One thing I've learnt over the years is that people on the VA forum here will complain about everything. Virgin could start gold plating the boarding passes and people would be on here loudly declaring that the dazzle from it hurts their eyes!

 

[antycbr]

I do find the whole VA fleet refresh which is basically to squeeze an extra six seats into the aircraft as a bit unnecessary. How often do those last six seats sell, compared to the degradation of the business product and general annoyance factor for passengers and crew?

Having said that it’s been a long time since I’ve seen any substantial number of empty J seats so the product is still in demand (how much of that is bid ups is open to debate). Y passengers will just suck it up as proven by most passengers not paying for Y+.

 

[PERLHR]

Maybe it's because we see upgrade spend figures, then we see constant devaluation in experience,higher costs to pax then we see what comes out as the solution. Let's be honest, it does look somewhat laughable. But hey I'm sure VA know what they are doing ...

 

[PERLHR]

I do find the whole VA fleet refresh which is basically to squeeze an extra six seats into the aircraft as a bit unnecessary. How often do those last six seats sell, compared to the degradation of the business product and general annoyance factor for passengers and crew?

Having said that it’s been a long time since I’ve seen any substantial number of empty J seats so the product is still in demand (how much of that is bid ups is open to debate). Y passengers will just suck it up as proven by most passengers not paying for Y+.

I use expert flyer for showing "available" seats quite a bit while looking for upgrade bids..often on PER routes at least up to 24 hours before departure I would say upgrade available seats are between 50 and 75 percent for biz cabin assuming expert flyer is correct

 

[Mossimo]

Just experienced Business Class Brisbane to Perth return on VA462 from Brisbane on 31 October 2024 and on 5th November 2024 VA471.

Because there is no partition between Business Class and Economy on this plane, you have economy class passengers using the forward toilet usually reserved for Business and Cabin crew.

On the BNE to Perth route the cabin manager to my horror announced after take off that economy class passengers were welcome to use the forward toilet as well as the 2 at the rear.
On the Perth to Brisbane flight the cabin manager did not allow this, but the crew were constantly hassled by passengers because of this.
What on earth was the idea to not fit a cabin partition between business on these planes?

We had people queuing beside our business seats - we literally had business class seats become the 'seats beside the toilet'.

Idiotic.

Know the feeling, had a woman uncomfortably close right next to my seat waiting for the forward toilet, she was third in the queue. She was scanning my laptop work. Had to cease my work which put me behind schedule. Keep economy in the back, if you want the front, pay for it.