Just when you thought you had seen it all in the Qantas lounge...

Tropic said:
I do chuckle a bit remembering old days when you would be sitting next to someone with ash mixed with food and beer stains tumbling down the front of his shirt having spent last two hours pigging out in the flightdeck lounge, and then after take off
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proudly proclaiming "your aircraft" and wandering back for a fa_...
 
Many of the behaviours we are discussing here reflects a trend in western societies I have observed over the lase decade or more - an increasing level of selfishness by certain people - not all vy any means.

I don't just mean lounge or plane habits, but in general - that certain sense of self entitlement which results in very self centric behaviours.

Again, a minority, but an ever increasing one imo. Not a trend I like.

Now I need to mosie on off with my Zimmer Frame and yell at some clouds...
 
RichardMEL said:
Many of the behaviours we are discussing here reflects a trend in western societies I have observed over the lase decade or more - an increasing level of selfishness by certain people - not all vy any means.

I don't just mean lounge or plane habits, but in general - that certain sense of self entitlement which results in very self centric behaviours.

Again, a minority, but an ever increasing one imo. Not a trend I like.

Now I need to mosie on off with my Zimmer Frame and yell at some clouds...
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There's nothing old or old-fashioned about good manners. They cost nothing but buy a lot.

Unfortunately having good manners needs one to have been taught them, or to go to the trouble of learning them. To have good manners one needs to think of others before self. Not something that is very popular nowadays.

I am frequently dismayed but not surprised by some of the behaviours I see in public nowadays.
 
RichardMEL said:
Many of the behaviours we are discussing here reflects a trend in western societies I have observed over the lase decade or more - an increasing level of selfishness by certain people - not all vy any means.
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My grandmother - who is currently warm in the afterlife - used to moan in the early 1980s about young people and the decline in standards of behaviour. There have always been Tories and sadly there always will be.
 
Mr H said:
My grandmother - who is currently warm in the afterlife - used to moan in the early 1980s about young people and the decline in standards of behaviour. There have always been Tories and sadly there always will be.
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Your grandmother was right. Standards of behaviour are declining rapidly but the sad part is we have yet to reach rock bottom.

This is definitely not a good thing.

Why has it become acceptable for women to wear bra tops in public? Some leave very little to imagination. And I don't care what name they use, it's a bra. It's an under garment.

And then the stupid trend of women wearing t-shirts with no bra at all. Nipples sticking out for all to see and breasts bouncing up and down as they walk. It looks awful. It does not belong in public. Maybe the beach but even then....
 
I think some ppl have a real issue with "seeing" other people's behaviour but that actual behaviour has no practical impact on them other than distasteful according to their standards which they then seek to impose on others with different values, such as how someone chooses to dress vs someone's feet on the table where later someone else might put their cutlery.

I often feel that this is like the case where some people buy nice designer clothes to feel that they are being exclusive and look down on others, yet the true millionaires or billionaires just wear whatever they feel like because they don't need to prove anything to the rest of the world.
 
JohnK said:
Your grandmother was right. Standards of behaviour are declining rapidly but the sad part is we have yet to reach rock bottom.

This is definitely not a good thing.

Why has it become acceptable for women to wear bra tops in public? Some leave very little to imagination. And I don't care what name they use, it's a bra. It's an under garment.

And then the stupid trend of women wearing t-shirts with no bra at all. Nipples sticking out for all to see and breasts bouncing up and down as they walk. It looks awful. It does not belong in public. Maybe the beach but even then....
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Tssk. Women wearing whatever they want. Maybe we need one of these...

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RichardMEL said:
Now I need to mosie on off with my Zimmer Frame and yell at some clouds...
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Think there could be a few lining up to join you @RichardMEL

My gripe is the very scantily clad folk here in our beach town that think it is totally acceptable to wear a "piece of string" and head to a Cafe for breakfast- now where's my Zimmer frame .....🤭
 
Flyfrequently said:
Think there could be a few lining up to join you @RichardMEL

My gripe is the very scantily clad folk here in our beach town that think it is totally acceptable to wear a "piece of string" and head to a Cafe for breakfast- now where's my Zimmer frame .....🤭
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None of us was born wearing clothes. This idea that people (especially female people) should have to cover up in a particular way is just an arbitrary custom we have invented for ourselves.
 
kyle said:
I think some ppl have a real issue with "seeing" other people's behaviour but that actual behaviour has no practical impact on them other than distasteful according to their standards which they then seek to impose on others with different values, such as how someone chooses to dress vs someone's feet on the table where later someone else might put their cutlery.

I often feel that this is like the case where some people buy nice designer clothes to feel that they are being exclusive and look down on others, yet the true millionaires or billionaires just wear whatever they feel like because they don't need to prove anything to the rest of the world.
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all poor people be like: sent from my brand new iPhone 15 pro max.

Off topic but I saw a tradie the other day wearing their qantas gold baggage tag on their way to work on the train the other day in orange outfit and construction boots and my initial response was why are you wearing a bag tag youre not even boarding a flight and also that having a gold bag tag does not make me think more highly of him/her in fact it makes it look more out of place and a little bit of an oxymoron in my eye. I think bag tags look better on businessmen for some reason as in it just blends into their attire. As for me I won't stick my gold baggage tag on my backpack unless I'm travelling of course because it just feels so pretentious.
 
To me I don't care if women wear bras on the outside or not at all or whatever.. or men for that matter (before I get accused of being an old perve). While "fashion" I guess comes under that grey area of community norms and can be very subjective depending on each person's own standards

These are personal choices but as previously noted, those kinds of choices don't really affect me.

I think that is quite separate to those choices ppl make that can, and do, affect others. Eg stucking grubby feet in chairs or tables, rifiling through buffet fiod with bare hands, having way too loud facetimeas in a quiet soace etc

Basically not impinging on anyone else.. do you. Potentially affect others - there's the line for me.
 
Except other peoples behaviour certainly does impact me. Grandmother was right. Certainly standards had slipped by the early 80s. So 2 examples.
First we often went into the Sydney CBD in the 50s and early 60s. It was accepted that you walked on the left. Even though there were probably more people as suburban malls did not exist pedestrian traffic moved easily and no one walked at you. They certainly do today and often walk straight at you. Even worse in these days of smartphones.

Second people respected their elders as happens in many countries and cultures. I would always give up my seat on a bus, train, tram or ferry. Now that I am old and have very little balance being offered a seat is now an absolute rarity. This very definitely affects my enjoyment of life.

I agree that there are now many more entitled people who do not consider the affects of their actions on others and at times they think it is a badge of honour to have little regard for others.
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fly2earth said:
the fact that you get lifelong cancer from nail polish is enough reason for me?
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You will not get cancer from sitting near someone applying nail polish.
fly2earth said:
all poor people be like: sent from my brand new iPhone 15 pro max.

Off topic but I saw a tradie the other day wearing their qantas gold baggage tag on their way to work on the train the other day in orange outfit and construction boots and my initial response was why are you wearing a bag tag youre not even boarding a flight and also that having a gold bag tag does not make me think more highly of him/her in fact it makes it look more out of place and a little bit of an oxymoron in my eye. I think bag tags look better on businessmen for some reason as in it just blends into their attire. As for me I won't stick my gold baggage tag on my backpack unless I'm travelling of course because it just feels so pretentious.
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You seem to have some prejudices you might want to work on. The primary purpose of a baggage tag is to help reunite the bag with the owner of they become separated. This works just as well when travelling by train as by plane.

Tradies may well fly more than me, despite my being a businessman. As a businessman I have a normal place of work and little need to be elsewhere. Tradies go where the work is and since FIFO workers would be Qantas’s best customers.

And the bit about poor people makes you look like a Daily Mail reader - yet you seem to worry that bag tags might make you look bad.
 
JohnK said:
Your grandmother was right. Standards of behaviour are declining rapidly but the sad part is we have yet to reach rock bottom.

This is definitely not a good thing.

Why has it become acceptable for women to wear bra tops in public? Some leave very little to imagination. And I don't care what name they use, it's a bra. It's an under garment.

And then the stupid trend of women wearing t-shirts with no bra at all. Nipples sticking out for all to see and breasts bouncing up and down as they walk. It looks awful. It does not belong in public. Maybe the beach but even then....
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STFU @JohnK 🤣

Just last night at the cinema, my daughter put her feet on top of the seat in front, and complained that no-one was sitting there when I told her to remove them because it's just plain rude to put feet on furniture. I think I got through to her?

I haven't been in a QF pub for a while but last time I was in one, I spotted a manager from my own company with her bare feet and cankles resting on the chair opposite. Just low brow.
 
Mr H said:
Tssk. Women wearing whatever they want. Maybe we need one of these...
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Oh come on it has nothing to do about stopping women wanting to wear what they want. Cover up and wear what you want. (Notice how I didn't say anything about the stupidity of wearing torn/ripped clothing in public?)

Why does everything we do cater towards making the minority feel like they fit in? There is absolutely no reason to dress this way (or lack of dress) in public.
 

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