Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

[MooTime]

I do wonder if the 321XLR plays part of the role of the 330s. Still hoping for lie-flat transcon. One can dream, right?

Can't dream if not a lie-flat seat.

only nightmare of a sleep at best in upright J seats.

 

[docjames]

At one stage they were saying they wanted flexibility to use the 350s both ULH and also medium haul (think HKG pre-covid) - I think it’s more likely the 350 will now be LH/ULH (12hr+ - LAX, DFW, NYC, LHR etc) and 787s will end up medium haul (6hr+ - SIN, BKK, NRT etc), and 321s for short-medium thin (3-6hr with thinner demand so PER-Eastcoast and thinner international routes).

 

[SYD]

There was something in the media earlier in the week about A330 replacements but I can find it now. However, there was a lot of coverage back in August when QF announced that they’d asked Airbus and Boeing for proposals with replacements starting in 2023 (if that’s even possible - even for an off the shelf aircraft.).

Qantas Wants Planemakers To Propose An Airbus A330 Replacement

What options does Qantas have to replace its fleet of 28 Airbus A330 aircraft?

simpleflying.com

Most of the coverage was focussed on like for like (ie wide body replacements including A330neo or a variant of A350 / B787 (any of which you’d think would have cost efficiency through commonality with existing and planned fleet).

Whatever it is, I hope they squeeze in some PE seats for mid range hops.

 

[RooFlyer]

Whatever it is, I hope they squeeze in some PE seats for mid range hops.

Not that 'squeezing' is what you'd be hoping for

 

[HS-TQE]

Not sure if QF are willing to do 'sub-fleets' of the same type, which has largely been off-limits during the Joyce era. Can really only see QF doing subfleets for the 789 and 321XLRs if Joyce were to 'move on' in the medium term.

 

[exLXCXFF]

Next media hype / bi-annual media exercise happening around Project Sunrise later this week: Qantas to reveal all-new A350 business class this week

 

[Berlin]

Next media hype / bi-annual media exercise happening around Project Sunrise later this week: Qantas to reveal all-new A350 business class this week

Oh that's going to be exciting!

 

[drron]

Oh that's going to be exciting!

As long as it is fairer.

 

[Berlin]

As long as it is fairer.

What do you mean by “fairer”?

 

[kpro]

"All new"? I'm guessing this will be more of an evolution product.

Probably a customised VantageXL seat in honeymoon configuration, maybe with a door.

 

[RooFlyer]

Next media hype / bi-annual media exercise happening around Project Sunrise later this week: Qantas to reveal all-new A350 business class this week

I haven't seen that much gushing since:

 

[levelnine]

"All new"? I'm guessing this will be more of an evolution product.

Yes, my guess will be basically the existing J suite plus a door.

 

[SeatBackForward]

As long as it is fairer.

Fare'er

 

[UP4014]

It won't alter the company's shocking financial state. But it'll receive plenty of free media.

I think they are in pretty good financial shape when you account for the previous several years.

 

[lovestotravel]

I think they are in pretty good financial shape when you account for the previous several years.

Do you mean the convenient write downs during covid to ensure a massive profit so AJ's bonus is plentiful, and the new aircraft coming once AJ leaves ?

 

[eminere]

I haven't seen that much gushing since:

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Not really surprising given who wrote that article.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

The news blurb was that they *(QF)* are back into profits!
And so the MEL QFi J lounge upgrade will happen, as will the SYD QFi J lounge as well, will happen.
$$$.
With project sunrise, direct flights SYD - LHR, is why they want to upgrade these 2 lounges.
Most likely the 321 will take over from the wide bodies/bodied planes domestically, and so, we have to accept a downgrade.
Don't think they (QF) would put too many 787s/350s into purely Aust dom flights.

 

[UP4014]

Do you mean the convenient write downs during covid to ensure a massive profit so AJ's bonus is plentiful, and the new aircraft coming once AJ leaves ?

Any smart business would be writing down what they can.

If your business didn’t and doesn’t maximise what they could do at every level then it’s worse off.

Many airlines didn’t come through it at all, look at Virgin which is a home grown example.

 

[lovestotravel]

Any smart business would be writing down what they can.

If your business didn’t and doesn’t maximise what they could do at every level then it’s worse off.

Many airlines didn’t come through it at all, look at Virgin which is a home grown example.

Many airlines didn't come through Covid.... Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[justinbrett]

Many airlines didn't come through Covid.... Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

Are you implying that's not the case? Because it absolutely is.

Quite a few airlines are no more - Alitalia, Flybe, LATAM Argentina, Cathay Dragon, Air Asia Japan, Tigerair Australia

The list of airlines that declared bankruptcy / voluntary administration is even longer - including VA (which is arguably a new airline similar to ITA), Virgin Atlantic, South African Airways, Avianca, Thai Airways, Interjet, Norwegian, Philippine Airlines ...