Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[HappyFlyerFamily]

One of the exposure sites is a boxing gym for several hours over two days

The three positive ACT cases this afternoon are 3 out of 9 close contacts of the Gungahlin man - so I'm guessing his close friends or housemates or family.

 

[dajop]

The Vic Police reported negatively ont he Ring of Steel for one.

As usually, completely missing the point. The police reported on the operational aspects of the Ring of Steel, which was difficult, time consuming and diverted resources. And didn't want to do it again.

That does not mean it was an effective illusion - an effective deterrent, a strong message to not mess around with "this thing" as Voldemort himself called it.

 

[N860CR]

Are you serious? We are not making equal sacrifices according to what is important in our lives. And we were never 'all in this together'. God I despise that phrase now. The model being used might have hit your sweet spot but not mine.

Yep. There’s no “all in this together”. This is simply a case of “my way or the highway”. Government has done an amazing job of shutting down debate (and making protests illegal) and pushing one said agenda. As was said above; “love it or leave it”. This has really brought out the worst in Australians.

Fair enough. But the young are only just now eligible to be vaccinated. Prior to the roll out this week, the two-tier model suggested the young, fit and healthy be allowed free range (let it rip) and the elderly and vulnerable be shielded.

Your argument keeps jumping around. You say young people are now only eligible to be vaccinated, yet then say the let it rip (which nobody has advocated) model would be one that allows them free range anyway? While the elderly and vulnerable are shielded? Isn’t this where we are now? Elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated (or have had the chance to be) and the young are less and risk.

 

[RAM]

Unconfirmed about ACT man - that he is a bouncer, at the door of the venue (except for breaks) listed from midnight to 4.45am last Sunday, before going to a church for 2 and a half hours from 10.30am to 1.00pm.

Hope it is wrong.

 

[Pushka]

Leaving the country permanently is one of the exemptions available. Perhaps if some people (including a few Affers who posted the ways around) hdn't rorted the system to go on holiday to Europe or elsewhere - this would not be required?

But even those who could have used this exemption were refused frequently - way back from the start. Even people who held citizenship of another country and not Australian. And now, there has to be a compelling reason why the move has to be - now!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

As usually, completely missing the point. The police reported on the operational aspects of the Ring of Steel, which was difficult, time consuming and diverted resources. And didn't want to do it again.

That does not mean it was an effective illusion - an effective deterrent, a strong message to not mess around with "this thing" as Voldemort himself called it.

The context of the time was that too many people were visiting, and/or moving to, the regional areas.

Was it perfect? No.

Was it effective? Well how many regional cases happened after it? How many regional areas had to go into lockdown? Did it confine most of cases to Greater Melbourne?

More recently situation in Victoria is not as dire, and the population at large is more conditioned and willing to following direction to not leave Greater Melbourne.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

The question was asked earlier 'what more could NSW do?' - checking permits to travel would be one step. Two people were able to board a flight in Sydney for Melbourne, while infectious.

 

[Pushka]

The question was asked earlier 'what more could NSW do?' - checking permits to travel would be one step. Two people were able to board a flight in Sydney for Melbourne, while infectious.

It isn't the responsibility of the exiting state to check the credentials of people boarding flights for interstate, nor is the airlines responsibility. Every state has a completely different process and it is up to that state to patrol its own border and rules.

 

[bcworld]

Please know...

 

[Must...Fly!]

The thinking was that the private sector, within the State, would be able to cope as 'Contact tracing can handle it'. The private sector would not expand capacity without being underwritten by the State Govt. State Govt didn't do that.

Do you have proof of this.

Also - the private pathology providers get a very decent chunk of revenue for each test that is processed. Instead of blaming the state for not handing out even more money to pathology clinics, why aren't we asking as to why they didn't invest in higher testing capacity themselves?

The question was asked earlier 'what more could NSW do?' - checking permits to travel would be one step. Two people were able to board a flight in Sydney for Melbourne, while infectious.

That is not how the country works.

Perhaps you should ask why Victoria hasn't stationed their own Authorised Officers in NSW to check border permits prior to people boarding flights to Victoria, in a similar method to how pre-check works for TSA?

Hint: It's because they have zero jurisdiction outside the Victorian border.

 

[antycbr]

Perhaps you should ask why Victoria hasn't stationed their own Authorised Officers in NSW to check border permits prior to people boarding flights to Victoria, in a similar method to how pre-check works for TSA?

Hint: It's because they have zero jurisdiction outside the Victorian border.

Perhaps we can trial a Preclearance facility for each state at Sydney Airport like the US does in Canada…

We are operating like separate countries so we might as well run all the flights through international.

 

[trevella]

Unconfirmed about ACT man - that he is a bouncer, at the door of the venue (except for breaks) listed from midnight to 4.45am last Sunday, before going to a church for 2 and a half hours from 10.30am to 1.00pm.

Hope it is wrong.

Calm down. Perhaps he caught it after church.

At this stage you have no idea of where in the chain he is.

 

[Lynda2475]

nothing has been done to increase NSW's processing capacity

False, state run pathology facilities have been running 24 hours, at time of Ruby princess only standard business hours. They have also brought on additional private partners.

The Premier called out the delays with a particular private partner last week and they subsequently brought on more capacity.

NSW using all existing machines (public & private) 24 x 7 can only process in the low 60,000s per day.

Incorrect, NSW did 69K on Christams Day within the state on a public holiday. Delays were not an issue until rates of testing got much much higher.

The inability to process the tests promptly has existed for over a month now & nothing has been done to increase NSW's processing capacity.

The surveillance reports dont support your claim, testing rates have been increasing week on week. w/e 10th July did better than w/e 3rd July

breakthrough cases in staff at Liverpool hospital illustrates how crucial prompt processing is parramount - deaths now at 7 sadly

As you have been previously advised this wasnt a breakthrough case as the staff member who started the outbreak was only partially vaccinated.

Dr Chant has confirmed that surveillance testing for HQ and Hospital workers is prioritised, what evidence do you have that test results were not returned within 24 hours?

Noting that all of the deaths in the Liverpool Hospital cluster were in people over 60 who were not vaccinated despite being eligible for months with comorbidities (6 in geriatric ward and one in the urology ward).

Not getting any media coverage though.

You obviously werent listening during this weeks pressers.

LHDs are much larger than LGAs. But today Bayside LGA was added to areas of concern and is in South Eastern LHD. Sydney LHD includes Strathfield LGA and Burwood LGA which were also added today, plus Inner West which got a warning. Burwood, Strahfield and Kogarah have all been mentioned more than once over the past 2 weeks.

 

[bcworld]

School in Gladesville

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425727765215518728

 

[jakeseven7]

School in Gladesville

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1425727765215518728

Covid marches back towards the coast…

 

[stryker]

RAM:
"Unconfirmed about ACT man - that he is a bouncer, at the door of the venue (except for breaks) listed from midnight to 4.45am last Sunday, before going to a church for 2 and a half hours from 10.30am to 1.00pm.

Hope it is wrong."

My wife has confirmed this and has said that he also went to Sydney to do some bouncer work for a couple of days. Of course, this is just heresay...

The power of Facebook...

 

[MEL_Traveller]

It isn't the responsibility of the exiting state to check the credentials of people boarding flights for interstate, nor is the airlines responsibility. Every state has a completely different process and it is up to that state to patrol its own border and rules.

The question was asked 'what more could NSW do'? If not checking the permits themselves, is there a check on the road to the airport making sure people are there for one of the reasons allowed under the current restrictions?

 

[Pushka]

The question was asked 'what more could NSW do'? If not checking the permits themselves, is there a check on the road to the airport making sure people are there for one of the reasons allowed under the current restrictions?

I don't really see how that would stop people leaving to enter a state they had no authority to enter?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I don't really see how that would stop people leaving to enter a state they had no authority to enter?

If the passengers didn't have a reason to be out they would have been fined and hopefully sent home. Never to get to the airport in the first place. If they had an exemption to travel, that permit should have been checked. False information should have then prevented them from traveling.

 

[Princess Fiona]

If the passengers didn't have a reason to be out they would have been fined and hopefully sent home. Never to get to the airport in the first place. If they had an exemption to travel, that permit should have been checked. False information should have then prevented them from traveling.

You know they provided false information and travelled on a green zone permit ?


Exactly how do you think anyone in authority in NSW would be able to prevent that? NSW has zero oversight of the Victorian permit system.