Qantas Club Corporate Membership question

[medhead]

I was wondering if anyone knows if QF routinely check back with an organisation, when someone in the corporate scheme renew their membership.

I ask because I noticed that they now have a note on the website renewal to the effect that selecting a fee is agreement that qantas can check my eligibility with the organistation.

 

[Nigelinoz]

Not sure if they do now but I personally know of a guy (friend of a friend) who got access to a QC application form pre-filled with corporate travel account nuimbers etc for a major university.
He signed up to the Qantas club as though he was employed by the uni.
he used his own cc to pay for the membership and never booked any travel on the account etc but was able to renew his membership and Qantas never apparently checked,he had the renewal sent to his home address and nobody was the wiser.

 

[jpk]

I have heard of the same happening.

 

[Nigelinoz]

Apparently the guy who did it claims that he never stole anything as he picked the form out of the rubbish bin,did not charge any travel to the uni account and paid the membership fee on his credit card,probably fair points but in reality he did deceive Qantas and therefore stole the difference between the corporate membership rate and the individual rate.
So I suppose he could be charged with obtaining a financial advantage by deception.

 

[nlagalle]

our renewal comes through our company - not directly to us. so while you could probably enrol on your own, but you couldn't renew it.

 

[strewthbut]

If need be you could always renew through the FrequentFlyer QC corporate scheme.

 

[medhead]

Thanks. I'm certainly not in a situation of getting a scheme number out of a bin. I did a lot of service to an organisation, with quiet average paid, but one of the benefits was being able to access the QC corporate scheme. Besides the experience, cheap QC membership was probably the next best thing I got.

Anyway, I've since discontinued my contribution to this but now the QC is up for renewal. There are a number of other possible ways I could be eligible, but that will take some phone calls. SO I'm just trying to gauge if the path of least resistance (using the old scheme number) is safe. Or if I should make the phone calls.

This is an individually managed scheme so paying and renewal is managed by the individual - me.

 

[Will]

Besides the experience, cheap QC membership was probably the next best thing I got.

How much cheaper than the AFF corporate rate?

 

[medhead]

How much cheaper than the AFF corporate rate?

It used to be a lot cheaper, but the difference has decreased with time and now appears to be the same. I'll check my other options and join AFF gold, if the other options don't exist and if AFF will take me.

 

[tuapekastar]

I can't tell you if they do really check, because I was in a similar situation and opted not to renew via that corporate scheme. (I had done so once previously when no longer working for the firm in question, but all that happened that time was an 'invoice' in the mail suggesting I pay the renewal at corporate rates. I did. Quickly).

FWIW, I renewed via AFF's scheme. It's pricey like any QP membership, but a reasonable discount on what Joe Public will pay.

 

[NM]

Apparently the guy who did it claims that he never stole anything as he picked the form out of the rubbish bin,did not charge any travel to the uni account and paid the membership fee on his credit card,probably fair points but in reality he did deceive Qantas and therefore stole the difference between the corporate membership rate and the individual rate.
So I suppose he could be charged with obtaining a financial advantage by deception.

I think the legal term would be fraud rather than theft. He fraudulently claimed something to which he is not entitled.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I think the legal term would be fraud rather than theft. He fraudulently claimed something to which he is not entitled.

There is also "theft by finding"....

I assume that the T&C of being in the QC would also leave one liable for falsely joining.....

I have not read these..but I would guess if discovered that you would forfeit your joining fee, be kicked out...and quite probably lose any built up FF or SC.

 

[medhead]

I assume that the T&C of being in the QC would also leave one liable for falsely joining.....

I have not read these..but I would guess if discovered that you would forfeit your joining fee, be kicked out...and quite probably lose any built up FF or SC.

This is a real hard question. I have reviewed the terms of the QC and they are silent on the point of being eligible under a corporate scheme. Which is probably why the note about that has been added to the website renewal form.

I'm not sure they could take points or SC. I was first a member of the FFP before joining the QC and those things are earnt under the FFP.

It is also not clear that eligible doesn't include former members once their service is completed. I was with an organisation that does often continue to provide benefits to former members. So in answer to my own question I need to check with the scheme coordinator.

On another question, my old scheme is currently offering 4 years @ $820. Is this the same as available to AFF gold?

 

[tuapekastar]

On another question, my old scheme is currently offering 4 years @ $820. Is this the same as available to AFF gold?

I think AFF costs more than that (~325 per annum) but somewhat less than standard rates (>400 per annum).

 

[medhead]

I think AFF costs more than that (~325 per annum) but somewhat less than standard rates (>400 per annum).

Ahh, I think I'm quoting the 4 year renewal price, for a single year its cost about $260. That's surprising, I thought that all corporate scheme were the same these days.

 

[Flashback]

Ahh, I think I'm quoting the 4 year renewal price, for a single year its cost about $260. That's surprising, I thought that all corporate scheme were the same these days.

Nope, I get different rates through my ACS membership (not that it matters, I have a Life QP membership anyway).

 

[Will]

My Corporate Scheme offers:

Joining Fee $200.00​

1 Year Membership $265.00 -save $220​

2 Year Membership $465.00 -save $305

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I guess the discount offered must depend on the number of members in the scheme?
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[rwatts]

My Corporate Scheme offers:

Joining Fee $200.00​

1 Year Membership $265.00 -save $220​

2 Year Membership $465.00 -save $305

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I guess the discount offered must depend on the number of members in the scheme?
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Possibly but quite likely related to your organisation's commercial importance to Qantas. The scheme I'm in is about $30 per year less and allows for 1 to 5 year renewals.

Richard.

 

[docjames]

My Corporate Scheme offers:

Joining Fee $200.00

1 Year Membership $265.00 -save $220


2 Year Membership $465.00 -save $305​

I guess the discount offered must depend on the number of members in the scheme?​

Two different corporate programmes I can access offer same rates as those.

My wife's corporate offer is $250 / $450.

 

[Mwenenzi]

My Corporate Scheme offers:
Joining Fee $200.00
1 Year Membership $215.00 (including GST)
2 Year Membership $360.00 (including GST)