QANTAS announces direct BNE-ORD / BNE-SFO

[jakeseven7]

Great news (pending the hopefully soon finally approved JV with AA)!

QFi continues its expansion. If only PER airport weren’t so corrupt and hopeless they would have Joburg and also Paris in the works . But two new US routes from outside of Syd is awesome news!

Qantas to launch non-stop Chicago flights under new joint venture

Qantas wants to fly from Brisbane to Chicago and to San Francisco once it has final approval for a joint venture with American Airlines.

thenewdaily.com.au

 

[AIRwin]

Wonder what the flight numbers will be - QF5? QF17? QF21? QF31? QF47? QF53? QF77?

 

[pm3207]

QF17 and 77 have been in recent use, but I wondered the same thing myself. My bet is QF21 for ORD.

 

[jase05]

Great news for Queenslanders.
ADL still treated like a leper by QF but oh well

 

[dajop]

ADL still treated like a leper by QF but oh well

Still waiting for ADL-LAX I guess.

 

[jase05]

Still waiting for ADL-LAX I guess.

My money is on us getting US flights with another airline. I’m not holding my breath on QF ever coming back

 

[stm1sydney]

Not actually an announcement of a new route, just that Qantas "wants to fly" BNE-ORD, said Mr Joyce (according to that article). Mr Joyce has been known to put big plans out there to great acclaim, then later quietly retract them. Standard QF tactic, as we all know.

 

[Himeno]

QF17 and 77 have been in recent use, but I wondered the same thing myself. My bet is QF21 for ORD.

QF21 is still used for adhoc seasonal SYD-NRT flights and once they pull the 747 from HND, or Australia gets issued a 2nd HND slot and QF jumps on it, they are likely to resume a 2nd SYD-TYO flight with the 21/22 numbers.

 

[docjames]

Does the 787 have the legs for SYD-ORD? Or more to the point ORD-SYD? If so, would be a surprise to see BNE-ORD launched rather than SYD-ORD. Otherwise might find it’s like QF7/8 was initially SYD-ORD-BNE-SYD.

BNE-SFO makes more sense (MEL and SYD already served).

Re: numbers, current US flights are 3/4; 7/8; 11/12; 15/16; 49/50; 73/74; 93/94; 95/96.

So really it could be anything not regularly in use.

I’m tipping they wont use 13/14 (especially to USA), wont use 5/6 (save for Paris/BER/LHR/EU in general), but anything not currently I use upwards from there is fair game.

 

[AIRwin]

Re: numbers, current US flights are 3/4; 7/8; 11/12; 15/16; 49/50; 73/74; 93/94; 95/96.

And 55/56

 

[docjames]

Sorry, missed one.

Did ok off the top of my head!

 

[levelnine]

Does the 787 have the legs for SYD-ORD? Or more to the point ORD-SYD?

No. Hence why it is BNE-ORD. Once aircraft come online for Qantas that can do SYD-ORD and, for that matter, SYD-LHR, these stop-gap routes such as BNE-ORD and PER-LHR will be dropped.

With the arrival of Project Sunrise, Qantas will become even more SYD- and MEL-centric than it already is.

Bad news for BNE- and PER-based flyers.

 

[pauly7]

No. Hence why it is BNE-ORD. Once aircraft come online for Qantas that can do SYD-ORD and, for that matter, SYD-LHR, these stop-gap routes such as BNE-ORD and PER-LHR will be dropped.

With the arrival of Project Sunrise, Qantas will become even more SYD- and MEL-centric than it already is.

Bad news for BNE- and PER-based flyers.

Well that’s not certain, remember they are smaller planes on skinny routes and they could in in time build their own market, at least some of them AND... the big elephant in the room (more for EU flights) is when QF builds up enough business and routes to let EK go....

Pricing of the direct ESB to the world hub busting flights haven’t been released yet either you may well find QF try and extract a significant premium to begin with and leave some stop over flights to pick up the scraps.

There are a lot of variables and think it’s a bit generalised to say the current routes will categorically dripped - you don’t know that although may wel happen Probably no one does for sure right now.

 

[levelnine]

There are a lot of variables and think it’s a bit generalised to say the current routes will categorically dripped - you don’t know that although may wel happen Probably no one does for sure right now.

Of course nothing in life is certain, but BNE-ORD & PER-LHR require (i) a lot of premium traffic because QF has configured the aircraft capable of doing these routes as premium heavy and, therefore, (ii) feeder traffic from SYD and MEL where the bulk of premium traffic emanates, which will dry up once those people can go direct from MEL and SYD.

BNE and PER can only sustain a handful of destinations in their own right. Even fewer with premium-heavy aircraft. LHR and ORD are not two such destinations.

 

[Himeno]

Wonder what the flight numbers will be - QF5? QF17? QF21? QF31? QF47? QF53? QF77?

QF uses QF1-199 for own metal international. Here's a list. Might be missing a few, mainly NZ/South Pacific flights.

QF1 SYD-SIN-LHR
QF2 LHR-SIN-SYD
QF3 SYD-HNL
QF4 HNL-SYD
QF5
QF6
QF7 SYD-DFW
QF8 DFW-SYD
QF9 MEL-PER-LHR
QF10 LHR-PER-MEL
QF11 SYD-LAX-JFK
QF12 JFK-LAX-SYD
QF13
QF14
QF15 BNE-LAX
QF16 LAX-BNE
QF17 SYD-LAX (Seasonal)
QF18 LAX-SYD (Seasonal)
QF19 SYD-MNL
QF20 MNL-SYD
QF21 SYD-NRT (Seasonal)
QF22 NRT-SYD (Seasonal)
QF23 SYD-BKK
QF24 BKK-SYD
QF25 SYD-HND
QF26 HND-SYD
QF27 SYD-SCL
QF28 SCL-SYD
QF29 MEL-HKG
QF30 HKG-MEL
QF31
QF32
QF33 SYD-KIX
QF34 KIX-SYD
QF35 MEL-SIN
QF36 SIN-MEL
QF37 MEL-SIN
QF38 SIN-MEL
QF39 SYD-CTS (Seasonal)
QF40 CTS-SYD (Seasonal)
QF41 SYD-CGK
QF42 CGK-SYD
QF43 SYD-DPS
QF44 DPS-SYD
QF45 MEL-DPS
QF46 DPS-MEL
QF47
QF48
QF49 MEL-SFO
QF50 SFO-MEL
QF51 BNE-SIN
QF52 SIN-BNE
QF53
QF54
QF55 BNE-LAX
QF56 LAX-BNE
QF57 BNE-POM
QF58 POM-BNE
QF59
QF60
QF61 BNE-NRT
QF62 NRT-BNE
QF63 SYD-JNB
QF64 JNB-SYD
QF65
QF66
QF67
QF68
QF69
QF70
QF71 PER-SIN
QF72 SIN-PER
QF73 SYD-SFO
QF74 SFO-SYD
QF75 SYD-YVR (Seasonal)
QF76 YVR-SYD (Seasonal)
QF77 PER-SIN (Seasonal?)
QF78 SIN-PER (Seasonal?)
QF79 MEL-NRT
QF80 NRT-MEL
QF81 SYD-SIN
QF82 SIN-SYD
QF83
QF84
QF85
QF86
QF87
QF88
QF89 BNE-NOU
QF90 NOU-BNE
QF91 SYD-NOU
QF92 NOU-SYD
QF93 MEL-LAX
QF94 LAX-MEL
QF95 MEL-LAX
QF96 LAX-MEL
QF97 BNE-HKG
QF98 HKG-BNE
QF99
QF100
QF101 SYD-NAN
QF102 NAN-SYD
QF103
QF104
QF105
QF106
QF107 SYD-PEK
QF108 PEK-SYD
QF109
QF110
QF111
QF112
QF113
QF114
QF115
QF116
QF117 SYD-HKG
QF118 HKG-SYD
QF119
QF120
QF121 SYD-ZQN
QF122
QF123
QF124
QF125
QF126
QF127 SYD-HKG
QF128 HKG-SYD
QF129 SYD-PVG
QF130 PVG-SYD
QF131
QF132
QF133
QF134
QF135
QF136
QF137
QF138
QF139
QF140
QF141
QF142
QF143 SYD-AKL
QF144 AKL-SYD
QF145 SYD-AKL
QF146
QF147
QF148
QF149
QF150
QF151
QF152
QF153
QF154
QF155
QF156
QF157
QF158 AKL-MEL
QF159 MEL-AKL
QF160
QF161 SYD-WLG
QF162 WLG-SYD
QF163
QF164
QF165
QF166
QF167
QF168
QF169
QF170
QF171 MEL-WLG
QF172
QF173
QF174
QF175
QF176
QF177
QF178
QF179
QF180
QF181
QF182
QF183
QF184
QF185
QF186
QF187
QF188
QF189
QF190
QF191
QF192
QF193
QF194
QF195
QF196
QF197
QF198
QF199

 

[Captain Halliday]

QF162 is WLG-SYD if you want to add it @Himeno

 

[Quickstatus]

Hold your horses. There has not been any announcement about BNE-ORD. Just speculative comment.

 

[justinbrett]

Hold your horses. There has not been any announcement about BNE-ORD. Just speculative comment.

From the MR - “Qantas expects to announce details of two new routes – Brisbane-Chicago and Brisbane-San Francisco – once final approval is received.”

That’s a little more certain than “speculation”. As good as formally announced.

 

[pauly7]

SFO is turning into a mini QF hub... I wonder how the MEL flights are going, I’ve flown them 6 times since launch and J has been full every single time. Wonder if they will go daily at some point.

 

[Quickstatus]

From the MR - “Qantas expects to announce details of two new routes – Brisbane-Chicago and Brisbane-San Francisco – once final approval is received.”

That’s a little more certain than “speculation”. As good as formally announced.

“Expects to announce”. Well that means it has not been announced yet... and because it’s not directly from AJ, yes that also means that it is speculation at this point.