Which international airlines to/ex OZ worst for overbooking

[Melburnian1]

There may be some routes where this non existent or rare (such as CAN - DRW where a Chinese-based airline runs with typically low load factors) but are there any international airlines operating flights to and from Oz, or routes, between us and (a) Asia (b) Europe, all bar QF with an enforced stopover (c) USA (d) NZ that are particularly notorious for overbooking flights and hence having to offer, or insist upon, some booked passengers not travelling?

Or in many cases does the typical five per cent 'no show' rate usually cancel out any overbookings and allow all who front to check in to be accommodated on their booked flight?

I assume any such practices vary between seasons, days of the week and individual flights.

 

[Pushka]

Emirates out of Adelaide in holiday periods. Somewhat alleviated now with Qatar.

 

[Melburnian1]

Emirates out of Adelaide in holiday periods. Somewhat alleviated now with Qatar.

Does it offer cash to entice passengers to be rebooked, or is it achieved by other means? I've only ever been on overbooked lights overseas.

 

[Pushka]

Does it offer cash to entice passengers to be rebooked, or is it achieved by other means? I've only ever been on overbooked lights overseas.

The premium cabins aren’t usually booked so they upgrade. I’m not sure what happens to those who still miss out.

 

[Beano]

About 15 years ago, before I reached the exhalted height of premium flying, I was waiting in a along queue for an Air NZ flight BNE-WLG. A staff member went down the line asking for voulnteers to catch the next flight that day for $150. I declined, but some took it. When I got home my wife said I should have taken it. Never come across overbooked flights since, unless those were the ones on which I was upgraded. Usually flying QF, EK, Air NZ, Singapore, from WLG to Australia, Asia and Europe.

 

[JohnK]

I've never been offered cash for overbooked flights to take a later flight bit I'd take it without too much thought.

 

[ozfflyer]

seems to be basic misunderstanding about overbooking.

All airlines work of average of no shows. If a particaulr flight has an average no show of 5%, then they will overbook to that number if they can.

Since economy tightening & discretionary spending on things like airlines plummeting, very few are paying to fly business class.

So if say, an airline has a total of 400 seats on a flight, say 50 business & 350 economy, without taking into account, any no show factor, they will take maybe 360, 370, 380 economy bookings, if booking averages for business class are low. Many business class fares are booked at very short notice, so they want to keep some open.

So if 360 people booked in economy actually turn up, 10 people have to be upgraded.

Many airlines now offer bidding up to 24 hours before for upgrades & upgrades at check in for $$$ not ff pts. Then if they still have not enough economy seats, they will look at which passengers actually fly a lot with that airline & upgrade them free.

Sometimes airline staff get upgraded, but not usually talking check in staff, but rather, senior execs or pilots. Then again, they can sit in jump seat(s). Am sure on long haul, someone allocated a jump seat, maybe able to use crew sleeping areas.

Sat in 4 coughpits before Sep 11

1) an A330 & from memory jump seat was enormous & could have sat 2-3 people easily. It was an overnight flight & pilots seemed so bored, they started showing me how to "fly" the aircraft

2) a B737 twice & was tight & I'm not fat, but tall. Basically the seat, backed onto the coughpit door.
(one time it was on Olympic airways on a very old & tired aircraft, in which much of the coughpit seemed to be held together by gaffer tape)

3) a Saab 340 which was even tighter than the B737