A couple of questions from an AAdvantage newbie

[knasty]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

It should just be a single award, allowed under the 'Doha exception'.

There is plenty of info on it here American Airlines Award Routing Rules - One Mile at a Time

Doha exception doesn;t apply to South Pacific unfortunately. Per the chart it's still only Asia 1 or 2.

Europe

South Pacific

Asia Zone 1 Asia Zone 2

 

[sergeyvzn]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

It should just be a single award, allowed under the 'Doha exception'.

There is plenty of info on it here American Airlines Award Routing Rules - One Mile at a Time

incorrect

the Doha exception does not cover South Pacific, unfortunately. This is clearly seen from the One Mile at a Time post referred to above. It only covers Americas to Europe/Africa and Europe/Africa to Asia 1/2

 

[alieninperth]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

from FT, there is this on the general routing wiki (oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on - FlyerTalk Forums):

**this rule may actually be this now:
Award travel between Europe and the South Pacific will allow for connections in Doha, Bangkok, Hong Kong, Narita, Osaka or Singapore only. Stopovers in these cities for this award are not allowed.**

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

from FT, there is this on the general routing wiki (oneworld and Other Airline (Partner) Awards info, rules 2014 on - FlyerTalk Forums):

**this rule may actually be this now:
Award travel between Europe and the South Pacific will allow for connections in Doha, Bangkok, Hong Kong, Narita, Osaka or Singapore only. Stopovers in these cities for this award are not allowed.**

That wording has been there for a long time and Doha is unfortunately not valid (at this stage) for itineraries to Australia.

 

[netgrom]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

That wording has been there for a long time and Doha is unfortunately not valid (at this stage) for itineraries to Australia.

This does seem to be a problem I am having. Trying to ticket a J BNE-PER-DOH-JRO which I thought according to the table should be a 50,000 but they are saying 67,000. Although you can transit through DOH looks like its only certain itineraries at the moment. Any ideas or will I just have to wear the extra points. Certainly allot more restrictive then US.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

This does seem to be a problem I am having. Trying to ticket a J BNE-PER-DOH-JRO which I thought according to the table should be a 50,000 but they are saying 67,000. Although you can transit through DOH looks like its only certain itineraries at the moment. Any ideas or will I just have to wear the extra points. Certainly allot more restrictive then US.

Connections in DOH for the 'through fare' are allowed for travel to/from Asia, not Australia.

Of course you can connect through Doha anyway - just you have to pay two awards.

Unfortunately there's no workaround to that until such time as AA changes the rules (if they ever do).

AA is more restrictive as they have a couple of extra requirements over the former USDM... you need to (a) have a published fare for your proposed flights and/or (b) make sure you comply with the routing restrictions about transiting additional regions.

 

[netgrom]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

After spending most of this morning on the phone, you can get a 50,000 point reward providing its Qatar all the way, ie. if it was MEL-DOH-JRO then the agent advised it would be 50k, however adding a domestic transfer then breaks it and adds the 17.5k. So my BNE-PER-DOH-JRO comes in at 67.5k.

 

[sergeyvzn]

After spending most of this morning on the phone, you can get a 50,000 point reward providing its Qatar all the way, ie. if it was MEL-DOH-JRO then the agent advised it would be 50k, however adding a domestic transfer then breaks it and adds the 17.5k. So my BNE-PER-DOH-JRO comes in at 67.5k.

Most likely it's due to the BNE-PER leg either 1) pushing the whole journey over 25MPM or 2) Qatar not having a published fare to JRO from Brisbane, or both

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

After spending most of this morning on the phone, you can get a 50,000 point reward providing its Qatar all the way, ie. if it was MEL-DOH-JRO then the agent advised it would be 50k, however adding a domestic transfer then breaks it and adds the 17.5k. So my BNE-PER-DOH-JRO comes in at 67.5k.

has this actually been ticketed?

 

[netgrom]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

has this actually been ticketed?

Not quite, just waiting for it to come through after being on the phone. It was placed on hold and confirmed as 67.5 points + $89.83 taxes pp all in J. (Although I had a US agent say it was going to be 50k last night but couldn't use a AUS credit card).

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Not quite, just waiting for it to come through after being on the phone. It was placed on hold and confirmed as 67.5 points + $89.83 taxes pp all in J. (Although I had a US agent say it was going to be 50k last night but couldn't use a AUS credit card).

yeah... the 50K quote was what I was waiting for ticketing! That would have been a marked change of policy if it had been true.

 

[auriga]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I don't get where the 67.5K comes from. If that is meant to be two awards, which two?

 

[alieninperth]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Just guessing but intra AUS (17.5K) and AUS-DEST (50K)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I don't get where the 67.5K comes from. If that is meant to be two awards, which two?

Actually that's a really good question - because if it is domestic plus SYD-JRO, that seems to allow the transit in DOH FOC.

 

[netgrom]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Actually that's a really good question - because if it is domestic plus SYD-JRO, that seems to allow the transit in DOH FOC.

Exactly, DOH (Transit) IS FOC but then I don't get why I get charged for domestic connection ? The end of the day I believe its because there is no QR fare basis that goes from BNE according to what I have read.

 

[kamchatsky]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Hi all,

I want to book 1-way SYD-ADL-HKG J QF/CX award with ADL being stopover. Can I book it under 1 award of 35K miles? Or I have to pay extra 17.5K for the SYD-ADL leg?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Hi all,

I want to book 1-way SYD-ADL-HKG J QF/CX award with ADL being stopover. Can I book it under 1 award of 35K miles? Or I have to pay extra 17.5K for the SYD-ADL leg?

AA don't allow stopovers for their awards. You can stay less than 24 hours free of charge. But after that it will be constructed as two awards.

 

[ETA_2022]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

Sorry if this question was answered earlier in the thread, but I don't have time to read all 106 pages.

Does it matter if I select the US website or the Australian website to join, buy points and redeem them? What, if anything, is different?

 

[knasty]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

For most advanced functions the au website redirects to the us website automatically anyway.

 

[kamchatsky]

Re: Couple of AAdvantage questions from a newbie to it

I tried to book CX J ADL-HKG on AA award.

BA shows 2 seats available, QF shows availability, likewise CX.

But AAgent said it is not available at all on the day I wanted (after 1 hour wait on their phone call which itself is ridiculous).

Yes the date is within 330 days of today.

Is that normal or the new AA regime so that they don't have much seats available so that your points goes all to waste? Or should I HUACA?

Is the 1 hour wait normal so that all of us gets so frustrated and don't book awards with AAdvantage?

EDIT: Just checked JL, also shows 2 seats available.