Travel finances - best cards and accounts

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Thanks for the replies. Pushka, is your experience with the 28 Degrees card recent? Am I likely to run into trouble if I don't have a phone for security validation purposes? I'm not intending to travel with roaming or a consistent mobile contact number... so I would want to be opting out of all mobile-based protections...

With all cards (including my 28D) I ring the card hotline and tell them I am travelling and will be using the card OS. I think it's actually what the card companies recommend and it serves the purposes of making sure legitimate card use OS isn't denied and also that fraud potential is minimised. Usually they want to know departure and return dates and what countries/cities we will be visiting. That would probably remove the necessity of them having phone access to you.
 
The Qantas World card looks good - but there's got to be a catch, right? They can't just be handing out the QFF points for free. Alas, even if there's a minor atm withdrawal/currency conversion fee attached we will have to forego it I think, this trip really is going to be about cutting every cost we can :(

They will make their money through fees, the FX rate or third party access. Budget on money at a realistic rate.
 
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Joint Citbank Plus transaction account for day-to-day spending and cash withdrawals

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28Degrees Mastercard OR Bankwest Zero Platinum Mastercard with additional cardholder, for other spending

My strategy is the same; Citibank Plus for cash withdrawals, 28 Degrees for purchases. Carry two other CC's as backups. There are Citibank faithfuls who would also suggest using Citibank Signature Credit Card (some might even stretch it to the Platinum Card), forex surcharges are added on ~3% but are offset by the 4 points per $1 earned.
 
I'm looking at Citibank plus now for cash withdrawals. Are their ATMs specifically Citibank branded? I don't recall seeing them very often. So would likely incur fees using other ATMs.
 
I'm looking at Citibank plus now for cash withdrawals. Are their ATMs specifically Citibank branded? I don't recall seeing them very often. So would likely incur fees using other ATMs.

There is another thread for Citibank Plus and fees charged on various other bank's ATMs. Can't find it now, sorry. My experience ( and most of others) is that there usually isn't a fee from other bank's ATMs. Thailand seems to be a consistent exception, Myanmar is another.

Edit: this thread re Citibank Plus.
 
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I just returned from South America and used the QF/Bank west debit card .... No issues in getting cash out or paying for hotels etc. The exchange rates were great ... and they do not charge a conversion fee

The debit card does have a FX fee
 
I'm looking at Citibank plus now for cash withdrawals. Are their ATMs specifically Citibank branded? I don't recall seeing them very often. So would likely incur fees using other ATMs.

This is a very Australian perspective tbh (not an insult, more an indictment on our system). We are used to, and accept, fees everywhere!

Many/most countries don't have fees on using other bank's ATMs. As mentioned uptrend, the most common examples are linked in another thread.

Thailand, for example, charges foreigners and not local cards. The U.S. Is confusing and state/bank dependant. Most countries are entirely free regardless of ATM brand.
 
I'm looking at Citibank plus now for cash withdrawals. Are their ATMs specifically Citibank branded? I don't recall seeing them very often. So would likely incur fees using other ATMs.

except for the USA, I haven't been charged with my citibank card, regardless of the branding of the ATM. (I know thailand is also an exception.)

The only difference I found by using a Citibank branded machine was that i seemed to be offered more account management options... balance stuff like that.
 
This is a very Australian perspective tbh (not an insult, more an indictment on our system). We are used to, and accept, fees everywhere!

For Australian cash locally, I use ING Orange Everyday. No fees on any Australian ATM (ie you accept the fee at the ATM and then ING reimburses you immediately so it doesn't cost you a cent). That said, I rarely need to withdraw cash as there's no points in paying with cash ;)
 
except for the USA, I haven't been charged with my citibank card, regardless of the branding of the ATM. (I know thailand is also an exception.)

The only difference I found by using a Citibank branded machine was that i seemed to be offered more account management options... balance stuff like that.

See other thread. Some US banks do charge a fee. Bank of America for one.
 
Hi all, hoping to get some guidance on travel money management. Will be spending the next year in South America, so want to avoid as many bank fees and charges as humanly possible. Based on my research here and elsewhere it looks like the following is the best solution for me and my wife:

Joint Citbank Plus transaction account for day-to-day spending and cash withdrawals

AND

28Degrees Mastercard OR Bankwest Zero Platinum Mastercard with additional cardholder, for other spending

My thinking is that these options seem to have the best fee structure (no annual fees, no conversion fees, no atm fees for the Citi acct) and offer some redundancy - i.e. debit (Citi) and credit options (28D/BW) would both be available, visa (Debit card; Citi) and mastercard (28D/BW) would both be available.

We'd take the existing Diamond CBA cards (Amex and Visa) as emergency backups, but obviously wouldn't use them day-to-day due to the fees.

Because we will be in South America, travel money cards will be ruled out - I have already looked ito QCash, AusForEx, etc - they really only have mainstream currencies not obscure ones like Pesos etc. But if I've overlooked an option please let me know!

Would anybody care to comment on this plan?
- Does the above make sense, have I got anything wrong or missed any other good options?
- Anybody have any ideas as to the better of the 28 Degrees / Bankwest CCs? I am probably leaning toward the Bankwest card, only because they are affilliated with CBA who I do a lot of other banking, but no other real reason.

Many thanks in advance for assisting with my first query on AFF! Cheers, Mike.

Late to the party, but thought I'd chip in. I recently took out the Bankwest QFF Platinum card to avoid the 2.95% forex fee on an upcoming trip. The conversion rates for recent transactions were close to but of course slightly worse than the xe.com rate of the day - eg:
14/1 1 CAD= 1.0249 AUD (xe.com), 1.032 (Settled Transaction)
12/1 1 USD= 1.2249 USD (xe.com), 1.233 (Settled Transaction)

Suggesting a profit of approximately 0.5% in the mid market rates they're charging. Of course, this being on top of MC hedging the settlement date based on predictions of market trends, etc.

Now, there is a $160 annual fee, but the 8,000 bonus points were worth approximately the same to me based on J redemptions, and the 0% for 12 months BT rate is also appealing if you want to transfer some money off other cards and hold the cash to offset a mortgage or similar. Plus, the points you'll earn on spend made it worth it for me. I pay almost exclusively on card so cash isn't a big deal.

I'm sure you're aware but it's only the platinum that has waived forex fee, so it does have a higher minimum limit and income requirement - but seeing you have a CBA Diamond CC I assume this won't be a problem.

Re: security, I particularly like what Amex do (send you an SMS if they detect a fraudulent transaction, you reply with "yes" and it immediately unlocks your card). When Bankwest suspected my purchase of IHG Dining Rewards to be a fraud, I had to call them to get the card unlocked - and they particularly disliked the fact i had forgotten my phone banking password. This is fine - as long as you have access to a phone. As a side note, i do particularly like how with CBA you can individually lock international/domestic instore/electronic transactions.

Finally, I successfully lost my CBA Amex while overseas, and when I rang to have it disabled I learned it also disabled my wife's as it was the same card number. We had plenty of backups, but something to keep in mind.
 
except for the USA, I haven't been charged with my citibank card, regardless of the branding of the ATM. (I know thailand is also an exception.)

The only difference I found by using a Citibank branded machine was that i seemed to be offered more account management options... balance stuff like that.

See other thread. Some US banks do charge a fee. Bank of America for one.

do you mean for using a US bank ATM outside the USA? I'm not sure I've come across many of them.

I may have mis-read your post prior to the reply above. In the other thread, BoA ATMs in Miami and Philadelphia mentioned.
 
Are you going to Argentina or Venezuela?

If yes - take lots of USD in cash.

Due to government-imposed restrictions on foreign currency transactions there is a thriving currency black market in either country. E.g. In Argentina the official exchange rate (banks, bureaus de change) is 8.35 peso for 1 USD whereas in the black market you get 13.5 pesos. Your hotel receptionist will be more than happy exchange USD for you at the rate of 12 or 13 pesos...in fact they will ask you if you'd like to change some money. Everything in Argentina will become 1.5 times cheaper instantly.

The same thing applies to Venezuela
 
Are you going to Argentina or Venezuela?

If yes - take lots of USD in cash.

Due to government-imposed restrictions on foreign currency transactions there is a thriving currency black market in either country. E.g. In Argentina the official exchange rate (banks, bureaus de change) is 8.35 peso for 1 USD whereas in the black market you get 13.5 pesos. Your hotel receptionist will be more than happy exchange USD for you at the rate of 12 or 13 pesos...in fact they will ask you if you'd like to change some money. Everything in Argentina will become 1.5 times cheaper instantly.

The same thing applies to Venezuela

Interesting, thanks for the tip. I always carry fresh latest series USD notes as a matter of routine. Looks important there.

No chance of AUD being directly dealt with?
 
Interesting, thanks for the tip. I always carry fresh latest series USD notes as a matter of routine. Looks important there.

No chance of AUD being directly dealt with?

Unlikely, there's almost no demand for AUD. It's either USD or euro
 
Thanks everyone for your advice. In the end I have gone with the Citibank Plus account as originally planned, for all the obvious reasons. The application process was pretty painless (although rather primitive in parts). Expecting the cards soon and will report back on any service issues people might be interested in.

For a CC, I went with the Bankwest Zero Platinum. Lots of positive feedback on the 28 Degrees card here, and that was appreciated, but the two cards were so similar in benefits that really it was only two very minor things that swayed me in the direction of the Bankwest card: (1) They have an app which works just fine (28 Degrees app is still 'in the making'), (2) interest rate is marginally lower, which may be of use if I start thinking 'bugger it' at the end of the holiday and chucking all manner of irresponsible things on the card!

Bankwest application process was marginally annoying due to a need for multiple bank visits for ID check (new customer), but otherwise fairly straightforward. Again, will report back on the use of this card if I think AFF members will be interested.

My only regret - not seeing the Bankwest Plat QFF card asa posted above by Exceladdict. I'm in two minds about whether that would truly be of more benefit to me... but the 8,000 points is tempting. I've contacted Bankwest to see if it's too late to switch to that product. I suspect the answer will be 'no you can't', but oh well. I'm otherwise pretty happy that this has worked out :)

Thanks again for all input on cards (and also on the USD situation in Venezuela - yes, we're aware of the black market currency situation, not quite sure yet how we'll be handling it)
 
Are you going to Argentina or Venezuela?

If yes - take lots of USD in cash.

Due to government-imposed restrictions on foreign currency transactions there is a thriving currency black market in either country. E.g. In Argentina the official exchange rate (banks, bureaus de change) is 8.35 peso for 1 USD whereas in the black market you get 13.5 pesos. Your hotel receptionist will be more than happy exchange USD for you at the rate of 12 or 13 pesos...in fact they will ask you if you'd like to change some money. Everything in Argentina will become 1.5 times cheaper instantly.

The same thing applies to Venezuela

Thanks for that tip! I took a bunch of crisp US$ to Myanmar last December, as that was the 'traditional' requirement in the absence of ATMs. Still have 'em, as ATMs are now all over the place.

Will retain the US$ for Argentina trip in a few months :)
 
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