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Hey ladies and gents,

I am after what you would feel is a reasonable response from Virgin to a situation i encountered last year. It is a bit of a story so here it goes.

Myself and SWMBO a reward economy flight booked Syd-Mel at 1700 on a Sunday night. Did OLCI that day as had no need to change anything (was a personal leisure trip) Went to airport, through security and waited at gate lounge. As the time approached for boarding I check the screen again, mysteriously my flight was showing as cancelled.

Naturally I approached the desk and ask what the go is. I am told that there has been a crewing issue (take note of that) and they have had to cancel the flights but wait here and it will be sorted. The gentleman I spoke with was polite and helpful as possible in the situation, but had to keep going down the aerobridge for some reason. He eventually came back looked on the computer and said he cant help, and I need to go upstairs to the service desk.

Well when I got upstairs it was chaos! There were two girls on the desk with one floating behind them on the phone/radio etc. Given the situation they were fantastic. Always calm, despite some passengers taking personal offence to the fact the flight had been cancelled. due to my younger days in retail, I always remain calm and polite in these situations, as I know getting mad at a person who has no control will never yield you a positive response. We waited in line for easily 2 hours. Once we arrived at the front we were politely told there is no way we are getting to Sydney tonight and we will be transported to the hotel that night, given $50 room credit per person and then brought back to the airport for a 6am departure to Sydney going via Brisbane. At this time we were given some vouchers to use on food at the airport to the value of $15 each. We were told a bus will come and collect us at 2130 and someone will be waiting downstairs for us to direct us.

At 2100 we went downstairs and looked around, all we could find were passengers in the same situation as us. I asked a few wandering ground staff if they knew and they apologised and said they didn't. This went till 930 when one of the other passengers came and saw us and said its over the road. So we all made a dash to get to the bus. This took approx an hr and a half, as the bus driver didn't know where he was going (I ended up directing him into the hotel), but we can't really blame Virgin for that can we? The put us in the Pullman Albert Park which was nice. While on the bus one of the passengers mentioned that there heard there will be no bus to pick people up cause all the flights are at different times. I didn't believe them and thought rumors in this situation would be crazy. By the time we got to the room, ordered dinner and got to bed it was approx midnight.

Come 430am we are waiting downstairs to get to the airport with plenty of time for our 6am departure. We ask the front desk if they know what time the bus is coming to get us and they said as far as they knew there was no bus, but they will call us a cab like have done for the other passengers. Not what I expected but I went with it. A couple of weeks later on the credit card statement I noticed a charge for ~$35 on my card. I rang the hotel and was told it is the amount we went over the credit. I argued and said no way did we spend $135 on dinner, to which they replied no, you only get $50 credit PER ROOM.

Once at the airport, all was good. Obviously we didn't have time for breakfast at the hotel so left it and decided to eat on the plane. We bought a sandwidch and a drink each and arrived into Sydney around 11am, got to the car and of course our pre paid parking was expired so we needed to pay $64 for another day of parking. Both myself and my wife then needed to take a day of leave as we couldn't get to work before 2 so were told to take it off.

I complained to Virgin about it 2 days after the fact and after waiting 4 weeks (Christmas was in the mix so can understand), then being told its not their fault and I'm not entitled to anything, I escalated it. This meant another 3 week wait. This person was more helpful and asked me to send my receipts for expenses and they would get back to me. That was another 4 weeks. Yesterday I received a response and was told the processing of the credits will be 3 weeks.

In summary my out of pockets are
- Food at the hotel
- Transfer to the airport
- Breakfast/lunch on Monday
- extra day parking

I Hope you haven't died of boredom, but what would you consider fair as compensation? Just the money I am owed or some sort of goodwill?
 
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If it happened last year why ask now? Have you been on the case and been refused?
 
just over $220. The amount I have been told I will be reimbursed is much less than that.
 
If it happened last year why ask now? Have you been on the case and been refused?

I first made a complaint 3 days after it happened!! Yesterday I received Virgins final response outlining what they will offer me along with a note saying if I wish to persue the additional costs I will have to do it outside the airline.
 
I first made a complaint 3 days after it happened!! Yesterday I received Virgins final response outlining what they will offer me along with a note saying if I wish to persue the additional costs I will have to do it outside the airline.

No worries, I thought it might be something like that.
 
Hard to know what's worth the effort.

For $220 I probably wouldn't be bothered, but, $220 is $220 might be worth asking for a voucher for the full amount as an easy compromise.

For that amount don't give yourself to much grief.

Matt
 
Hard to know what's worth the effort.

For $220 I probably wouldn't be bothered, but, $220 is $220 might be worth asking for a voucher for the full amount as an easy compromise.

For that amount don't give yourself to much grief.

Matt

At this point is more of a principle thing. Also the fact we were never informed of the flight cancellation, the reroute, and lack of assistance post incident.
 
I'd ask for 5k VFF points each. You *might* get that. It seems very, very strange that they couldnt get you to SYD that night and that you had to go via BNE the next day on the 5th busiest route in the world - VA have the frequency on this route (flights every 15 mins in peak) for situations exactly like this. Was this the week of Christmas?

I think they're liable for the transport to the airport but not anything else. It is not the airlines fault you pre-booked your parking and/or parked at the airport. I don't think I've ever heard of emergency hotel accomodation situations working smoothly - Albert Park is a LONG way from the airport.

I assume you have no VA status? If you do and this happens in future don't bother with the service desk (I dont even know where this is at MEL) - go straight to the lounge, give them your boarding pass and let them sort it out. They're excellent in there.

You may also consider annual travel insurance to cover future cancellations like this.
 
Why don't you try making a complaint to the Airline Customer Advocate?

Home

Who knows, they may be a toothless tiger - but then again, they might charge VA a complaint investigation fee (similar to the TiO), which may give VA a reason to resolve your complaint before it escalates further.

I've successfully chased up VA for much less - sometimes its the principle that matters.
 
Thanks smit. I was Silver at the time, am now gold. Yes, all guests are expected to have travel insurance. My problem is I almost exclusively travel for work so am normally covered. They are liable to a little more according to their website, but they aren't very keen to give much away.
 
Why don't you try making a complaint to the Airline Customer Advocate?

Home

Who knows, they may be a toothless tiger - but then again, they might charge VA a complaint investigation fee (similar to the TiO), which may give VA a reason to resolve your complaint before it escalates further.

I've successfully chased up VA for much less - sometimes its the principle.

Good plan. Thanks mate
 
I really do feel for you as going through the ordeal is perhaps worth much more than the $220 you're out of pocket!

However:

- Food at the hotel : you were going to have to pay for food no matter what city you were in
- Transfer to the airport: fair call, but travel insurance would kick in here
- Breakfast/lunch on Monday: Same deal as above - you would normally pay for it anyhow
- Extra day parking: again, travel insurance

Virgin really should step up and proactively give you something and 2-3 months waiting is ridiculous - but remember this is most likely a strategy to encourage you to give up... after all it's only $200 right?

With no gold/plat status - I agree travel insurance should be your first port of call, however with a likely $100+ excess and they may deny food claims it would not be worth making a claim. In some cases you might end up having a negative effect (where the claim - excess = less than $0).

With that all said - what do you reasonably think Virgin should do for you?
 
Why don't you try making a complaint to the Airline Customer Advocate?

Home

Who knows, they may be a toothless tiger - but then again, they might charge VA a complaint investigation fee (similar to the TiO), which may give VA a reason to resolve your complaint before it escalates further.

I've successfully chased up VA for much less - sometimes its the principle that matters.

The Airline Customer Advocate is a waste of time

Unlike the TIO there are no costs involved and anything that the ACA recommends is just that, a recomendation
 
Good to see the Virgin representative has stepped in but I would be pursuing to be re-imbursed all costs for something that was not your fault.
 
I really do feel for you as going through the ordeal is perhaps worth much more than the $220 you're out of pocket!

However:

- Food at the hotel : you were going to have to pay for food no matter what city you were in
- Transfer to the airport: fair call, but travel insurance would kick in here
- Breakfast/lunch on Monday: Same deal as above - you would normally pay for it anyhow
- Extra day parking: again, travel insurance

Virgin really should step up and proactively give you something and 2-3 months waiting is ridiculous - but remember this is most likely a strategy to encourage you to give up... after all it's only $200 right?

With no gold/plat status - I agree travel insurance should be your first port of call, however with a likely $100+ excess and they may deny food claims it would not be worth making a claim. In some cases you might end up having a negative effect (where the claim - excess = less than $0).

With that all said - what do you reasonably think Virgin should do for you?

I slightly disagree here. I had a fridge full of food at home that wouldn't have cost me any extra. My dinner and breakfast were both there all paid for.

I reasonably think they should pay for my out of pockets and offer a small token of goodwill. You hear of people that get upgraded for free, then bumped back down and are given monetary compensation. They have come to the party with some of it, but there is still an amount I am out.

Hi Dan, I'm really to sorry to hear about this experience and the trouble it's still causing you. If you'd like to send a private message with your reference details, I'd be happy to look into this for you.

Thanks VFF, I appreciate the offer. PM sent.

Good to see the Virgin representative has stepped in but I would be pursuing to be re-imbursed all costs for something that was not your fault.

That's kind of what I am after, however I understand that these companies have a policy that needs to be adhered too. If they can only give me a cash refund for a component of it then that is understandable. If the rest was given in travel bank or a status upgrade then I would happy. They could even go as far as refunding points I used to buy the fare.
 
A status upgrade over a cancelled flight isn't going to happen, so I wouldn't be hoping for it, even remotely.
 
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