Would you travel to ... North Korea?

Would you travel to North Korea?

  • Yes, definitely.

    Votes: 34 64.2%
  • No way.

    Votes: 15 28.3%
  • I don't understand the fuss.

    Votes: 4 7.5%

  • Total voters
    53
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jsoprano

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Easy question, easy answer. Or not?

To clarify, I do not sympathise with the regime in Pyongyang and this is not about politics.

Background: Maybe 5 years ago I learnt about the possibility to visit North Korea. It's not as difficult as one might think (or at least as I always thought). Pay ca. 1,000 EUR to a travel agency and off you go, from PEK on Air Koryo's IL214 onto the 5-day all-inclusive package tour. Of course, you only get to see what the regime wants you to see. I always wanted to do this, to see it myself as it seems to be like travelling back in time, to the '60s or even to medieval times.

What such a tour is like is probably best described here:

Inside North Korea: the ultimate package tour | Travel | The Observer

Now with the recent developments in North Korea I was reminded of this destination on my to-do list, and it immediately jumped back to the top. I mean what if the situation changes dramatically in North Korea, better do this as soon as possible, as it is relatively stable at the moment.

Anyway, usually I do not consult my travel plans with too many people (except +1 obviously who should agree where we are going, and +1 is on board). So we mentioned these plans to family and a few friends and the reaction was, well, interesting. The most positive one was "You are old enough to know yourself what you're doing." Other reactions were ranging from shock and disbelief to offending sarcasm and trying to talk us out of it. To be honest I haven’t expected people to be too positive about this, but also I hadn’t expected it to polarize in the way it did.

So what’s your opinion, would you be keen to go, or is this strictly off limits? I am not necessarily asking to give me any advise, as I have made my decision (if it works out time wise later this year is another question), but more keen to learn about your point of view.
 
I'd at least wait for things to cool down...the North is incredibly unstable at the moment and really no one knows what they're going to do.

Perhaps once they settle down with the new Kim then it might be okay for a visit.
 
I'd go. It's on my to-do list.

However, there is one thing I would be concerned about and that's the risk of politics going bad and you becoming stuck there or otherwise used as a pawn.

Other things to worry about include it affecting your potential security clearance if it is ever required, being basically watched all the time and potential issues with entry to other countries if your passport is stamped.
 
Other things to worry about include it affecting your potential security clearance if it is ever required

Someone I work with has been to North Korea. Everyone at the government agency I work for is required to have security clearances and given the type of work that this individual does I'd suspect they have a reasonably high clearance. So I suspect that it isn't too much of an issue, but yes it could certainly present problems in getting that clearance. Repeated trips to North Korea might raise more alarms.
 
I'd go. It's on my to-do list.

However, there is one thing I would be concerned about and that's the risk of politics going bad and you becoming stuck there or otherwise used as a pawn.

Other things to worry about include it affecting your potential security clearance if it is ever required, being basically watched all the time and potential issues with entry to other countries if your passport is stamped.

These two things are my concerns as well. The first one is hard to argue against, this could happen, although unlikely, so I would risk it (if the situation worsens between now and the travel date one would of course have to reconsider). The second one - I have read from various travellers that they do not stamp your passport :(. On entry you get a visa page stapled into your passport, which is removed when you leave the country.
 
Yes and I almost did about 5 years ago. From memory something happened that made me change my plans. Can't remember what tho.
 
Definitely no, not while the current bunch of cough are in charge killing and starving their people while foreign guests would be shown make believe la la land and fed a semi trailer load of bull...I wonder where the leader's get the hard currency to buy all their scotch whiskeys and other luxuries while they torture and kill their own people...I didn't go to Zimbabwe coz i didn't want my heard earned being filtered through to Mugabe's cronies, and i loathe the NK regime even more... I can't actually think off the top of my head of any regime worse in the world, the lawless anarchy reigning in places like Mogadishu probably doesn't constitute an actual government...To me this would border on the useful idiots that visited the Soviet Union during the 30s and coming back extolling the virtues of communism while Stalin starved millions in the Ukraine and elsewhere... I sort of wondered how they could do that, but i wouldn't want to even be close to repeating the situation...But each to their own...
 
I once went to Cuba for the "thrill" of checking out an isolated society.

Instead we found it was just a hole with bad food and cranky hospitality workers. We tried to do luxury and did the whole trip without much input from a professional, hence our experience. Perhaps if I went on a tour, it may have been different for us.

I think a North Korea trip organised by a guide could be interesting, yes it's as staged as Stonewall on Mailbox night, but you'd still get to see a bit of their culture which wouldn't be half uninteresting.
 
I once went to Cuba for the "thrill" of checking out an isolated society.

I actually really enjoyed myself - so much so I'm heading back. You're right though, impossible to do luxury there.

Anyway. I think I'd like to see North Korea, but not right now. Maybe in a year or two - see what happens with the current political situation.
 
I actually really enjoyed myself - so much so I'm heading back. You're right though, impossible to do luxury there.

Anyway. I think I'd like to see North Korea, but not right now. Maybe in a year or two - see what happens with the current political situation.



There are plenty of places I'm yet to visit, and they would all rate above North Korea.
 
I voted option 3 when I really wanted to vote option 2. :shock:

Personally I would not go while the situation is highly volatile....
 
I'm planning on going, hopefully within the next few years. The +1 isn't too wild for some reason :shock:
 
There are plenty of places I'm yet to visit, and they would all rate above North Korea.
Personally a dung heap would rate above it at present... But don't leave it too late before the current 'culture' is flushed down the lav with all the other commmie/totalitarian failed social experiements... I'm looking forward to having a cold one when the current Dear Leader and his pack of scum bags eventually swing for what they have done to their lot...
 
I voted option 3 though it really wasn't my desired answer.
Yes it is a place I would like to go to but not with the tours as now-i would like to talk to some locals that had not been brainwashed.
But also i do have a moral outlook that says it is inappropriate to send cash the way of its leaders and I can see Casanovawa's point.
Thirdly I would probably wait until hopefully it opens up a little more as China in the early days.We went in 1984.We were told it was avisable to go as a group tour.Fortunately 4 people constituted a group so I,mrsdrron,our son and my mother in law went.The group was arranged by our neice who is a TA.We went to Beijing,Xian and Guangzhou.In each place we had a guide and our own minibus.Being a group of only 4 with a senior and a child of 10 we didnt rate highly so our guides were young Uni students and none of them toed the Party line.It was an amazing trip including at one time having our bus commandeered by the Red army in Xian.I do wonder though,particularly our young guide in Beijing,whether any died in Tiamen Square a few years later.
So I would not exclude North Korea but there are many more places in the world that at present rate higher on my bucket list.
 
There are lots of countries who have policies I disagree with including Australia. Indeed every country I have travelled to, has policies I disagree with but I still go. Maybe they are right and I am wrong? Who knows but at least I can say I've been there and seen it with my own eyes.

Travel means I broaden my experience and hopefully those of the people I interact with.

It also means that the people get to know that people from other countries are not monsters etc. It is a two way street. If enough people visit then maybe there will be a groundswell against the totalitarian regime.

After all Ceausescu (former Romanian despot) supposedly fell because his people were exposed to Western television programs. They saw a better alternative and took it.


My visit to Sth Korea in Feb 2011 showed me one side and I think it would be interesting to see the other side.
 
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I’m curious here, do any travel insurance policies specifically exclude North Korea?

Off the top of my head - any policy issued through the good offices of American Express do not cover travel to countries under US embargo. I would imagine that any policy underwritten by a US company will exclude cover to countries under embargo.
 
Off the top of my head - any policy issued through the good offices of American Express do not cover travel to countries under US embargo. I would imagine that any policy underwritten by a US company will exclude cover to countries under embargo.

Though in Australia, because ACE is the Underwriter they are exempt from those US limitations (Cuba is on the US list too).

In fact, when our LV Jacket was stolen from luggage in Cuba, the insurer and Amex didn't even blink an eyelid when we reported it through to them
 
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