Why can't I fly to the US cheaply anymore???

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Greetings All,

I need to take an unexpected trip SYD to Houston with my son (20 y.o) within the next 2 months. I was shocked to find that all the $900 return Y fares have vanished.
The QF return to Dallas is $1700 and not much less to LA. I am a Kris Flyer member with about 200K points but not sure if it's economical to transfer them to a Star Alliance airline. My preferred option is to hold on to the points and find a "cheap flight" but it would be great to get some advice.
Any suggestions???

Regards,

Mitch:confused:
 
$1700 is about norm for the route, with the strength of the USD the demand outbound would be higher, however inbound a different story, where you probably are seeing more discounts.
 
I think the reasons is because the competing airlines all realised that losing money on the route was not in their best interest.

If you want the cheapest option, consider these options:

  • Cheapest "direct" may be with Delta or UA (I see UA and DL both for $1130+++ depending on dates SYD-IAH-SYD)
  • Check NZ via AKL for some specials.
  • Consider FJ via NAN
  • Consider one of the cheap Asia carriers such as Korean or Air China (I see a fare for A$950+++ SYD-LAX return or to IAH for A$1250)
 
Yes, you are right. The US-AUS-US trip is advertised on QF US website for US$929!
 
Thanks NM :D

I will check out those options. $1130 seems pretty good

Mitch
 
Mitch, like you I was a bit surprised how expensive the QF fares to the US are at the moment.

I had suggested to my friend we should combine a quick holiday with a SC run with cheap AA K/Yupp F fares, but alas nothing under $2000 for the dates I want in QF Y.

Hope there is another QF us sale soon for sep/oct.
 
Greetings All,

I need to take an unexpected trip SYD to Houston with my son (20 y.o) within the next 2 months. I was shocked to find that all the $900 return Y fares have vanished.
The QF return to Dallas is $1700 and not much less to LA. I am a Kris Flyer member with about 200K points but not sure if it's economical to transfer them to a Star Alliance airline. My preferred option is to hold on to the points and find a "cheap flight" but it would be great to get some advice.
Any suggestions???

Regards,

Mitch:confused:

Mitch, I've been wondering the exact same thing over the last month!

I'm moving to LA at the end of the month and need to book myself a one-way ADL-LAX and an ADL-LAX return for my mum... I'm lucky if I can get anything under $2000 for mum's return ticket!.. Whereas, for someone in LA visiting Oz... it's a totally different story.

In August last year, I was able to get a $1400 return ticket!

I'm a newbie here, so if anyone can enlighten me on the reasoning for high fares at the moment, it would be much appreciated!
 
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What about just looking from SYD to the West Coast ie LAX/SFO then buying a separate ticket ex SFO/LAX to IAH & back?

Bear in mind that June/July school holidays ex Aust plus summer in the USA always make this time to the USA peak season. US school kids also get Jun/Jul/Aug off for their summer holidays so a lot of flights fill up.

On the www.jetabroad.com.au website it shows "recently booked fares" one of which was MEL/LAX/MEL on Air Pacific & Virgin Blue for AUD1107.00 return but it didn't say what dates this was for.
 
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In August last year, I was able to get a $1400 return ticket!

I'm a newbie here, so if anyone can enlighten me on the reasoning for high fares at the moment, it would be much appreciated!


The favourable exchange rate is increasing demand, pushing prices up.
 
ex OZ, the airlines perceive a captive market.¹ Even before the recent surge in the AUD against the USD, I have been able to get ex USA return fares to Oz for between 30% and 40% less than the oither way.

In recent years, the majority of my transpacific travel has been booked ex LAX.

¹ I guess this is born out by reality as people continue to book ex Oz at these relatively high fares.
 
I think the issue is local outbound demand has really bumped up as there's been so much press lately about the strength of the AUD vs the USD. People are thinking it's a great time to travel to the US. That combined with the horrendous fuel surcharges - V Australia are now charging almost $500 for the fuel surcharge alone - has really bumped prices up.

I had a laugh yesterday when reading a travel article and it said "V Australia have great deals with SYD-LAs Vegas for $1469, SYD-LAX 1499..." and this wasn't even in peak season.
 
Lots of good thoughts here... but I wonder if AUD$900 return should be seen in any way as a "normal" fare.

Wasn't that the lowest of the low during the airlines worst period (late 2009 ???)

Hell.. I'm just happy not to have to routinely pay $2200 (or more) as I did in my pre-AFF/pre-FT days around 1997...
 
Wasn't that the lowest of the low during the airlines worst period (late 2009 ???)

Yup, plus 2009 was when VA launched with lots of great fares. While prices arent as high as they once were, I don't think its likely that they'll go GFC-low again either...
 
Well, VA does need to make money these days after initial fanfare of sub $1000 fares. It is probably not a bad thing, considering in the old days SYD-LAX are usually like $2000+.
 
We have been very lucky on the AUS-SYD route the past 2 years. I remember being excited about a $1800 fare to NYC in 2008.

Now I'm expecting $1200-1400. Oh well the pendulum has swung back...
 
Lots of good thoughts here... but I wonder if AUD$900 return should be seen in any way as a "normal" fare.

Wasn't that the lowest of the low during the airlines worst period (late 2009 ???)

Hell.. I'm just happy not to have to routinely pay $2200 (or more) as I did in my pre-AFF/pre-FT days around 1997...

Whatever is the lowest ever airfare to LAX eg AUD900.00 or thereabouts automatically becomes the norm in the eyes of the punter & therefore bogan logic is that any fare over & above that amount notwithstanding fuel surcharges will be a "rip-off".

I wonder if that AUD1107.00 fare to LAX with DJ/FJ was utilising the happy hour fare on DJ SYD/NAN/SYD then whatever the cheapest fare is on FJ NAN/LAX/NAN.
 
Fares are what you make of them.

Maybe years ago Qantas were spruiking they were introducing daily QF107/QF108 all the way to/from JFK and advertised $1700 fares; I grabbed one as I thought it was better thean the 'special' rate of $2100 for SYD-LAX.

Times change. A little over two years ago I would often see US$850 fares from LAX to OZ being advertised. (This was about AU$1100 back then)
 
The $900 - $1000 airfares were never sustainable; with the price of fuel the way it is I very much doubt we'll ever see them routinely that low again.
 
I think the reasons is because the competing airlines all realised that losing money on the route was not in their best interest.

If you want the cheapest option, consider these options:

  • Cheapest "direct" may be with Delta or UA (I see UA and DL both for $1130+++ depending on dates SYD-IAH-SYD)
  • Check NZ via AKL for some specials.
  • Consider FJ via NAN
  • Consider one of the cheap Asia carriers such as Korean or Air China (I see a fare for A$950+++ SYD-LAX return or to IAH for A$1250)

From past experience in 2007 flying FJ (Air Pacific) to LAX via NAN in Y, I don't recommend that option. AFAIK, FJ still have only two aircraft (both 747-400s) capable of flying that route - so if there is any delay or technical hitch involving one of them it is rarely possible to substitute another aircraft. This lack of redundancy causes cascading delays in subsequent flights that can take days to sort out.

In my case, a prior delay caused my flight from SYD to depart many hours late because the plane was several hours late arriving in SYD. This meant we got stuck in NAN overnight.

NAN is a distinctly sub-standard airport and the ground staff were very slow and inefficient. No one wanted to stay in the transit lounge because there were no amenities there, and spending the night in a hotel wasn't a viable option because it took us hours to be processed through immigration and the hotels are a considerable travel time from NAN - we would only have had a couple of hours at a hotel before having to return to the airport. My wife and I spent a very humid and uncomfortable night in the departure lounge, and although we were each given a small (I think it was FJ$20) food voucher the only food available was both expensive & unappetising - some soggy pre-packaged sandwiches and a very limited range of fruit.

And on the return flights from LAX via NAN, althougn there were no delays the outside of my luggage somehow got wet with something that smelled like dilute sewage! I had to throw that suitcase out when I got home.

That said, the fares are very competitive, the FJ 747-400s are well-maintained and I found our flight crew to be excellent. So if you're lucky enough not to be delayed or to have to transit at NAN you should have a pleasant trip - but I wouldn't rely on that if I were you.
 
As quite a young chap (;)) in the late '70s I flew MEL-BWI-MEL (in Y) on what was then a very cheap Apex type fare, booked and paid for from the US by my father as it was apparently not possible at the time to get such 'cheap' fares booking from Oz.

My recollection (not 100% sure) is that it was around AUD800.

So I suspect we're not doing too badly today if my memory is accurate.
 
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