When Rental Cars Go Wrong (or not at all)

justinbrett

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I just returned from a trip to the US and I resisted posting this while I was there as it was right at the end of it and very complex, and even now as still not been finalised.

One way Avis Rental Chicago Downtown - DFW, over 2 weeks. Intermediate SUV.

I pick the car up without any dramas and went on my way, first north/west all the way to North Dakota and then all the way down to TX.

3000 miles later, the car is running fine, performed well for fuel consumption. Heading to my final hotel stop in Austin, the car breaks down just south of Forth Worth. Initially it was just sluggish when I was trying to overtake on the interstate in the middle of FW; a few miles later the transmission appeared to slip whenever speed went above 40mph. I slowed down to 50mph and kept the cruise control at a steady speed, this worked for a bit and then it starts violently jerking, and a big "Engine Malfunction" warning appears. I pull over to the side of the interstate and turn the engine off. Where I pulled over was not safe, everyone is doing 80mph and my car is shaken by every passing truck. I turned the car back on, put the hazards on and limped to the next gas station doing max 40mph.

I arrive and park, then call Avis. Initial response is somewhat promising - I was clear of FW by this point but the nearest Avis was a 25 min drive back. I said I can try to limp there as long as they are happy for me to drive the car - they say yes. Then he says wait, no, they don't have any replacement cars, it's a busy weekend. You'll have to drive to DFW to DAL. I said I can't, it's not safe to drive that far, he agrees. So then his plan is to put me in an Uber to Austin (about 2.5 hours, US$150) and tow the car back to Dallas. Awesome, I think.

15 minutes later he calls again, "sorry we can't approve the Uber for that long trip, so we're going to tow the car to Austin and you can ride in the truck". Um... OK - surely a tow truck costs more than an Uber? Whatever.

4.5 hours later, the Tow Truck arrives as I start to display symptoms of heat stress (it was very hot). I get in, driver doesn't speak English and has 4 chihuahuas in the single cab, and the pax floor is covered in fast food wrappers and containers. We arrive at Avis Austin airport at 8pm (the main rental lot, not the terminal desk). It's a ghost town. We can't even get in the gate to return the car. We finally find a mechanic, but he doesn't have keys, so he says drop it in the lot next door and he'll pass it on. I didn't want a replacement vehicle by this point (it was arranged) but clearly that wasn't going to happen either.

I then booked a flight to DFW for my return and wanted nothing more to do with the car. After many phone calls, nobody would talk to me about the terms of the rental agreement ending. Roadside Assistance only cares about getting me a new car, they have nothing to do with compensation and refunds. Customer Service won't discuss the matter until the agreement has been closed, which happens when I get the replacement car and return it. I finally got on to someone who said the notes say the car is returned, so you can talk to Customer Service about potential refunds. By this point I'm within 24 hours of returning to Australia so figure I'll just call the Avis AU number.

What complicates it, or possibly helps, is the rental was repaid though the Avis AU site, with AUD, and has an AU suffix. I'm hoping this means Australian consumer law applies.

What I'm asking for is more than reasonable - a refund on the drop fee (US$300) since I never made it to my destination, and a refund of 3 days of rental (approx $100/day) for the days I didn't use the car.

Their main argument, which has been hinted already, is no compensation or refund is due as a replacement car was made available. I think it's clear to argue that wasn't the case, as the earliest I could have got the car was almost 24 hours after I arrived in Austin.

I've lost a lot of respect for Avis over this, I've found their Australian agents to be great and no previous troubles overseas or in the US, but this has been an absolute debacle. In the end it only cost me 5 hours of my trip, and I'm out of pocket for the flight - but I did save some money on hotel parking etc so not a total loss (and they don't need to know that).

Has anyone else been in a similar situation?
 
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I have had similar re cars, they break down like any other item, but better service.

Once driving out of LAS from the airport in a rental and engine light comes on, turn around and straight back, they credit me a day and give me another car.

Ask for the days you didn't use and the one way fee. State the facts, put in the names of all the people you spoke you, locations and times. I wouldn't mention the tow truck cleanliness or heat.
 
In short ..... I'd be very surprised if you get anywhere with them, regardless of whether it's Corporate in Australia or America. YMMV and I hope for your sake that does. You could try a CC chargeback but that potential issues for you if you ever try to rent with Avis in the future. You might say now you won't, but sometimes there is no choice......
 
I had an Avis rental in Calgary once. Terrible service. A lot of these places are franchises and they really don't care so long as the cars go out and come back. Avis is just the marketing and booking engine service provider. We had a 1 month rental via Avis. And after 2 weeks they rang me to ask where was the vehicle. I said the reservation period was 1 month. But they insisted I return the car to be checked. Why I don't know. Eventually they relented but the sting in the tail was at the return when they said the car was too dirty. Well, driving on the trans Canada highway in winter tends to put a lot of mud on the cars. I took it to a car wash in the end. No point trying to argue.

At least it's not like Hertz USA when police pull you out of the Hertz car through the window (as per US police SOP) accusing you of grand theft auto.
 
In the USA if you have problems with a car rental looking up who is the State's Attorney General. They usually have a web page with contact details. I had a problem with Dollar Rental cars on one occasion about 10 years ago in California. They insisted if paying with a foreign CC you had to pay for a full tank before you could take the car. Their AG at the time had their email address on the site so I fired off a complaint. got a reply from the AG herself who took it to dollar and i ended up being refunded more than i paid for their fuel fine.
That AG did go places. Her name was Kamala Harris.
 
I had an Avis rental in Calgary once. Terrible service. A lot of these places are franchises and they really don't care so long as the cars go out and come back. Avis is just the marketing and booking engine service provider. We had a 1 month rental via Avis. And after 2 weeks they rang me to ask where was the vehicle. I said the reservation period was 1 month. But they insisted I return the car to be checked. Why I don't know. Eventually they relented but the sting in the tail was at the return when they said the car was too dirty. Well, driving on the trans Canada highway in winter tends to put a lot of mud on the cars. I took it to a car wash in the end. No point trying to argue.

Boy, I used to rent from Avis in Calgary when I worked/contracted there over about 5-7 years. Dozens of rentals, winter, summer; used their 4WDs on mine sites etc etc. The agency under the Calgary Tower were 'couldn't-care-less' about service, but never said anything about cleanliness of the return!

Was yours a 'premium' car?
 
@justinbrett sorry to hear of your troubles. I do think your request fir compensation is fair.

Im currently in the US and renting a vehicle with Alamo for 3 months. Given that amount of time and the total distance (more than 15,000 kms) I will be travelling I've been concerned about mechanical issues during the rental, and aware that the car may need to be serviced. I raised this with Alamo, but they said I shouldn't concern myself.

I have, however, seen how easy it is to have the car replaced. 6 days into the trip, there was a hurricane in Oaklahoma City. The car suffered severe storm damage. Fortunately I was staying just up the road from the Alamo depot. I took the car there to report the damage and I was in a new car within 15 mins.
 
@justinbrett sorry to hear of your troubles. I do think your request fir compensation is fair.

Im currently in the US and renting a vehicle with Alamo for 3 months. Given that amount of time and the total distance (more than 15,000 kms) I will be travelling I've been concerned about mechanical issues during the rental, and aware that the car may need to be serviced. I raised this with Alamo, but they said I shouldn't concern myself.

I have, however, seen how easy it is to have the car replaced. 6 days into the trip, there was a hurricane in Oaklahoma City. The car suffered severe storm damage. Fortunately I was staying just up the road from the Alamo depot. I took the car there to report the damage and I was in a new car within 15 mins.
That's one thing I have found good in the US. Similar for me in Alaska when the windscreen cracked. Rolled in, choice of car, on we go once paperwork updated.

In Tunisia.... well, don't ask 😆
 
At least you got the car ... that does not always happen ...


Love all the victim blaming in that thread. :rolleyes: Typical FT really. "Should have booked at the airport, so it's your fault".
 
My rental car disaster was in south island NZ . arrived christchurch to drive to queenstown. was worried about driving into darkness on mountain roads. what i didnt expect was torrential rain, eventual hail. commuting about 60kms trying not to drive off the serpentine highway.

In the end my downfall was hitting rocks that were pouring off the hills on the road, damaging 2 wheels. Pulled over to side of road, with so much water pouring off the mountain, you could hear the pebbles hitting the roof of the car. Moved car to other side of road next to ravine ....

No cell phone coverage. picked up by stangers taken to closest town/hotel. hertz number advised no roadside assist. agency garage will call me in the morning. Had to wait till he closed at noon, drive back with him in towtruck, pick up car, tow all the way back to queenstown.

holiday weekend no cars. indeed no low profile radials on south island. 28 hours from airport to destination. with no car for weekend nor return to queenstown.

buy 1 way air tix for $300. hotel in christchurch. and hertz charges me for tire damage on 2 rims >$1000 (not covered by insurance). no rental refund due to my damage.

all on a jetstar sale fare $80 MEL-CHC return. :cool:
 
Update on this debacle,

Avis offered to refund unused days (I asked for 3).
No refund of one way fee.

All up ~US$175 refund. I think it's a bit on the cheap end, but guess I technically wasn't entitled to anything so I'll take it without further action.

My flight to DFW was US$270 (although tbf I chose to fly AA First), ubers to/from airport about $US40
I saved on gas to get back to/from Austin (approx US$40), and hotel parking at Hilton Austin (US$100).

By my calculations, I'm ahead by $5, though lost about 5 hours of my vacation. However, I got to day drink on my final day in the US - so overall, I'm taking this as a win.

Learning outcomes
-I won't prepay car rentals again, just to save a few hundred dollars.
-I'll never buy a Mazda.
 

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