Thankyou Emirates cabin crew EK414!

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I'd just like to take a few moments to thank the CSM and Emirates cabin staff on EK414 (QF8414) that departed DXB for SYD on Thursday 20th June. It was a shame they were put in the position by poor ground service.

So to give a bit of background, I flew back to the UK last Friday for 4 days to assist my elderly parents travel to AUS for my upcoming wedding. Plans had been made many, many months ago but only confirmed once EK/QF code shares came online. The partnership is great for my family as they live in NCL and have the daily flight to DXB which connects into EK414 so can be in SYD inside 24 hours. Great!

As soon as flights were booked, disability assistance was also booked throughout and my QF WP status was also designed to assist further with lounge access and better seating selection (not that useful on EK however so I have found).

NCL was great. Executive lounge for the 3 of us thanks to a kind lady on the desk. Assistance provided for my Mam and staff were all good. Further helped on board EK036 (QF8036) by the fact the plane was only a 3rd full, 127 passengers all up, very poor loading, good for us though.

All was ok on arrival into DXB and after finding the wheelchair we moved off. I explained I had access to the First lounge so we were taken to the area near Gate B20 (arrived B19, departed B21) and again the lovely lady on the reception allowed me to guest both parents in. I had explained that if there was an issue I would keep myself busy in the terminal whilst my parents relaxed but she was happy for us to all go in. We had a relaxing hour and a half prior to awaiting our disability assistance which had been arranged for 01:30.

This is where it went wrong.

No disability assistance arrived so at 01:35 I went to the reception area and enquired as to where the assistance was? At the same time boarding calls commences for our flight. A few calls were made and it was clear someone had dropped the ball and nobody was coming and they could not confirm when someone would arrive so it would be 'safer' to walk to the gate. I asked how this could possibly happen when they kept Mam's boarding pass and walked with us to where we were sat so they knew exactly where we were - blank faces! At this point I explained if it was going to be that easy to just walk to the gate we would already be doing that but we were left with little choice. So we walked to Gate B21 (I know it isn't far but to an elderly person who I was with I can assure you it is). We went through the security on the First lounge level and to the lift. The lift would not let us out on Level 1, only Level 2 for Business/First. We tried a second time, returning to the security level only to get as far as Level 2 again and deciding this would be the better option as time was ticking. We approached A380 and told the gentleman greeting us of the issue and that Mam did not want to tackle stairs on board due to the excess walking and lack of assistance. He went off with Mam and Dad whilst I took all of our hand luggage to squeeze them somewhere in cattle. 10 minutes later they eventually arrived after a 3rd visit in the lifts to the security level and a tour of a service lift.

Anyway, we were all on board, not very comfortable and very annoyed. But Mam just wanted to sit, rest and nod off. A few hours into the flight, after breakfast and after Mam had grabbed a small amount of sleep I got my WP introduction and unfortunately the CSM got it from me. On asking me how the flight was I took a moment to explain that the issue I had was not with him or his crew but that I was less than amused with the treatment we had received on the ground and that a complaint would be made as I was disgusted at such treatment. He was very sorry to hear of our predicament and said he would be back with a solution. To be fair he was back inside 5 minutes and spoke to Dad and I and explained that he had 2 seats in Business that he would put Mam and Dad in to. Mam had visibly deteriorated and was in a lot of pain with her leg so they got her up there ASAP and arranged for cold packs to ease the pain. After getting a few hours sleep laid flat she felt a lot better and was very complimentary to all of the staff and on leaving the plane we all said our thanks and expressed our gratitude. They took me upstairs just prior to landing so that we were all together on disembarking.

However, as good as all of this was, we would have all been just as happy had we received the assistance that we had requested and we would have happily completed the journey without any complaints.

So a big thank you to the crew on EK414. I will be providing positive feedback when I put in our formal complaint regarding the ground service.
 
A difficult dilemma - start walking or wait for the assistance. I take it there was no problem getting a BP reprint for your Mam?

I will be interested to see the response to your complaint.
 
A difficult dilemma - start walking or wait for the assistance. I take it there was no problem getting a BP reprint for your Mam?

I will be interested to see the response to your complaint.

Hi Jessica

Maybe should have been clearer that FLounge reception held the BP during our stay and we were given the same BP back as we left. They kept it so that they knew there was a passenger requiring assistance, they just did nothing about it until the assistance didn't turn up and we went to the desk to enquire what was going on.

As soon as I receive some feedback I will post here.
 
Hi Jessica

Maybe should have been clearer that FLounge reception held the BP during our stay and we were given the same BP back as we left. They kept it so that they knew there was a passenger requiring assistance, they just did nothing about it until the assistance didn't turn up and we went to the desk to enquire what was going on.

As soon as I receive some feedback I will post here.
I think that makes the situation even worse. I thought the person with the BP had left the lounge. But to have the BP sitting there as a reminder that there was a pax requiring assistance shows perhaps a systems failure.
 
I think that makes the situation even worse. I thought the person with the BP had left the lounge. But to have the BP sitting there as a reminder that there was a pax requiring assistance shows perhaps a systems failure.

It was akin to the service given in the Chairman's Lounge. I can imagine the furore if someone in there was not reminded about their flight at the right time and missed it.

Yes, I thought it was very bad and I personally felt bad that it was down to me making them use the FLounge. Last time they transited DXB they went straight to the gate and whilst not comfortable, Mam didn't have endure what she ended up with hence my anger at the EK staff in the FLounge that the poor CSM got in the neck. But he was exemplary so I want to make sure that this is recognised.
 
Was business class full, it would've been nice if you could've spent the flight seated near them?
 
Was business class full, it would've been nice if you could've spent the flight seated near them?

We were told it was full and they had made 2 seats available. I went up for landing so we were together on dis-embarking and was surprised to see half a dozen spare. I wasn't fussed, I was just happy my parents had been looked after which is what I went along to assist with. I got 3 Y seats to myself which was more than enough!
 
We were told it was full and they had made 2 seats available. I went up for landing so we were together on dis-embarking and was surprised to see half a dozen spare. I wasn't fussed, I was just happy my parents had been looked after which is what I went along to assist with. I got 3 Y seats to myself which was more than enough!
I think that the CSM made the effort to look after your parents before the 'WP' is in his favour. And as long as you weren't in a bulkhead seat, you got a lie flat seat too! Win-win.
 
Good to hear that all has worked out in the end.

Maybe should have been clearer that FLounge reception held the BP during our stay and we were given the same BP back as we left. They kept it so that they knew there was a passenger requiring assistance, they just did nothing about it until the assistance didn't turn up and we went to the desk to enquire what was going on.
Unfortunately you come across lounge staff around the world who are useless.

Sorry but that is the best way to describe them. They think they are paid to socialise and will only do something after prompting.
 
An update on this.

4 weeks after submitting the online complaint and . . . NOTHING!

Family is travelling back to the UK this evening via QF8413 and EK35 so I am hoping that the transfers are a lot smoother than the outbound.
 
An update on this.

4 weeks after submitting the online complaint and . . . NOTHING!

Family is travelling back to the UK this evening via QF8413 and EK35 so I am hoping that the transfers are a lot smoother than the outbound.

best wishes for the flight back
 
A difficult dilemma - start walking or wait for the assistance. I take it there was no problem getting a BP reprint for your Mam?

I will be interested to see the response to your complaint.

Well, after a near 6 week wait I was surprised to see a very un-generic response in my inbox from Qantas. They do seem to have myself and my Dad confused a little but that may have been my fault. Emirates have obviously looked into it and handed the information on to Qantas to provide the feedback. I am happy with the response and hopefully this has highlighted that not all assisted passengers want to sit in a solitary confined area if they have an opportunity of more comfort. The airport should cater for fliers of all levels, no matter their disability and hopefully something is learnt from this. I have provided a response to the Qantas customer care executive for providing feedback as it was much appreciated.

PS - Parents return to UK was long and uneventful and they have returned to the normality of the Tyne Bridge!! :D

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Dear Mr Lloyd,

Our colleagues at Emirates have provided information in regard to the lack of assistance offered to your mother at Dubai Airport.

On behalf of Qantas and Emirates, please accept my sincere apologies. We have been advised that there is a special handling lounge which is used for passenger requiring assistance. Passengers are scanned into and out of this lounge and it is a way of tracking passengers to ensure the appropriate level of service is offered.

As both you and Mrs Lloyd attended the first class lounge, the staff lost track of the request and the lack of wheelchair assistance came down to human error. Mrs Lloyd was not scanned into the special handling lounge and was missed when assistance was required. Emirates have confirmed that they have no record of an attendant allocated to board Mrs Lloyd.

Please be assured that we have raised our concerns with Emirates in regard to this unacceptable situation. Please pass on my sincere apologies to Mrs Lloyd. I can certainly appreciate how upsetting and distressing this situation was.

I was relieved to hear that the crew assisted your mother and you were both upgraded to business class in light of this situation.

Mr Lloyd, Qantas and Emirates are equally committed to providing excellent customer service. We all regret that this experience has left you questioning this.

We all hope to have the opportunity to welcome both of you on board again and your next experience exceeds your expectations.

Yours sincerely

xx_xx

Customer Care Executive

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It is good to see they took your complaint seriouly. Hopefully there will be an improvement for the next peron requiring assistance.
 
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