Questions re Hilton double / triple points rates

[wafliron]

I've got a 6 night, 2 room, booking at Hilton New York Fashion District coming up in March, where both rooms have been booked under a "triple points" rate. I'm hoping some of the Hilton regulars here might have experience with these triple point rates (or even double point rates, as I assume they work the same way) and could answer a few questions for me? I've Google'd to try and find answers, but practical information on these rates seems to be very sketchy (especially recent practical information).


1) Any reason to think I won't be able to earn triple points for both rooms? I assume I will given it sounds like the technical process for multi-room-earning is for the hotel to transfer all charges for the second room to the first room before the bill is paid, and hence both room's charges should count towards base points / double-dip bonus / Diamond bonus / triple-points-rate bonus. Thought it couldn't hurt to check though.

As an aside, if I'm right about the above, it makes me wonder whether you actually need to book both rooms under the triple points rate to get triple points... or whether just booking the first room under this rate, and the second room under a cheaper rate, would work? Given the charges from room two are transferred to room one, etc.

2) Do these triple points count as base points or bonus points? What little info I can find suggests the latter (and it's a fairly logical assumption), but again, looking for confirmation.

3) Which "types" of points are tripled with these rates? ie. is it triple base points (only), triple total points (after any other bonuses are applied), or something else?

e.g., say total charges for the stay worked out to be $4,000 USD, which would translate to 40,000 base points + 20,000 bonus points (points+points double dip) + 20,000 bonus points (Diamond) = 80,000 total points. Are only the 40,000 base points tripled, for an extra 80,000 points? Or the total points, for an extra 160,000 points? Or some other combo of base+bonuses?


Thanks... appreciate any responses / advice.

 

[serfty]

1. never booked 2 rooms

2. Not - relevant see point 3

3. Base points only

E.g. only the 40k

 

[mella2007]

Triple points count as bonus points when a promo is on.
In relation to the 2 rooms...I've booked 2 on a few occasions. A couple of times all points given, other times only the one room gets all the bonuses. You don't get extra nights or stays for the 2nd room either (unless you get lucky with a glitch in their system which happened to me once)

 

[Deleted member 29185]

When I've booked two rooms, points have been earned on the total $ value of both rooms. I actually thought this is covered in the T&Cs (up to 3 rooms IIRC) but I don't have the time at the moment to check them for you. I think if you booked the rooms at once (ie used the No. of rooms field in the single booking rather than making two separate bookings), you should earn the points and bonus points on the combined spend on both rooms but I've also achieved this with separate bookings. You will most likely only achieve stays and nights on one room.

Whether HH status benefits are extended to both rooms seems to be an each way bet. I've always had that experience but others have said they've not had their HH benefits with the second room (I'm mainly thinking breakfasts there).

 

[Cynicor]

Just finished this situation- normal points are earned on the total portfolio to a max of 2 rooms- this is room cost plus charges.

Bonuses are only earned on your room/main room officially, and they only apply to the base points.

The optimal strategy is, therefore, to put all room charges to the most expensive room as hotels vary as to how they allocate room charges. This way you get the bonus on the highest bill.

YMMV, when I return home tomorrow I need to battle hilton for what I feel is a missing 10000 bp (~30000 points after various bonuses etc)

 

[wafliron]

Thanks for the info / advice everyone - appreciate it!

Bonuses are only earned on your room/main room officially, and they only apply to the base points.

The optimal strategy is, therefore, to put all room charges to the most expensive room as hotels vary as to how they allocate room charges. This way you get the bonus on the highest bill.

From what I've read, it sounds like the recommended course of action is to actually ask the hotel to transfer all the charges for both rooms - including the room charge for the second room - to the first room's folio before the bill is paid. Which should mean that all charges count as being from the first room, and hence bonuses apply to "both" rooms.


Hmm, I just realised I completely forgot about the Q1 "double your points" promo, which will apply to this stay too. I estimate that the total charges for this stay will be in the region of $5,000 USD, which means I should earn (assuming no bonuses on bonuses, which sounds like it's the way it is anyway):

50,000 base points
+ 25,000 bonus points (double-dip)
+ 25,000 bonus points (Diamond 50% bonus)
+ 100,000 bonus points (triple points room rate)
+ 50,000 bonus points (double points Q1 promo)
= 250,000 points

Not bad for a 6 night stay in the cheapest room(s) at the hotel! I can see a trip to the Maldives in my future

 

[drross]

I wonder if you're eligible for both bonus offers? Hope so.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

= 250,000 points

Not bad for a 6 night stay in the cheapest room(s) at the hotel! I can see a trip to the Maldives in my future

Not bad at all. A nice haul if that's what credits (please keep us informed).

Given the diamond benefit of 37500 points/nite for a 6 night Conrad Rangali stay, @ normal high season rate of circa $700 means a $4200 holiday pre-paid...or your 6 nite NYC stay for $800.....or two holidays for the price of one......whichever way you wish to look at it, it's a bargain!

Let's hope your calcs are correct!

 

[Deleted member 29185]

I wonder if you're eligible for both bonus offers?

It's been my experience previously that multiple concurrent bonus offers all credit correctly.

 

[wafliron]

Not bad at all. A nice haul if that's what credits (please keep us informed).

Will do.

Given the diamond benefit of 37500 points/nite for a 6 night Conrad Rangali stay, @ normal high season rate of circa $700 means a $4200 holiday pre-paid...or your 6 nite NYC stay for $800.....or two holidays for the price of one......whichever way you wish to look at it, it's a bargain

Even better - the NYC visit is a work trip, so it's like a free holiday

(and before anyone gets stuck into me for booking a triple point rate on my employer's dime - I've heard people refer to these as "rip off your employer rates" - this was booked with my employer's full knowledge!)

It's been my experience previously that multiple concurrent bonus offers all credit correctly.

That is good to know - thanks for confirming this too