QF 5/6 & QF 107/8 Plane re-furb???

[Rolls]

Just wondering if anyone knows how likely it is that the QF 747's doing the SYD/FRA SYD/LAX trips are likely to be refitted with the A380 style J seats??
Thanks
R

 

[moa999]

QF is only refurbing 9 jets - 6 ERs and 3 newer 400s - according to the speech/ statement today this will be done by October
ERs appear to be mostly used in the DFW and SCL routes given range needs.

At present QF still has 20/21 747s so a lot that wont have the new seats (some of these still have old First)

I would say very doubtful on QF5/6 (if indeed that route survives) and a maybe on 107/8

 

[Rolls]

Thanks, do you know if QF 107 has a first class or would the seats in the nose be J??

 

[markis10]

Thanks, do you know if QF 107 has a first class or would the seats in the nose be J??

Depends on which QF107 you are talking about, its a lottery

30/06/2012	VH-OJM	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
01/07/2012	VH-OJL	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
02/07/2012	VH-OEH	B747-400	QF107	58J/36W/270Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
03/07/2012	VH-OJT	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
04/07/2012	VH-OJM	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
05/07/2012	VH-OEJ	B747-400	QF107	58J/36W/270Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
06/07/2012	VH-OEB	B747-400	QF107	14F/66J/40W/187Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
07/07/2012	VH-OJQ	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
08/07/2012	VH-OJG	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
09/07/2012	VH-OJH	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
10/07/2012	VH-OJI	B747-400	QF107	56J/40W/275Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
11/07/2012	VH-OEB	B747-400	QF107	14F/66J/40W/187Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
12/07/2012	VH-OJI	B747-400	QF107	56J/40W/275Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
13/07/2012	VH-OJH	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
14/07/2012	VH-OJG	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
15/07/2012	VH-OJM	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
16/07/2012	VH-OJU	B747-400	QF107	58J/36W/270Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
17/07/2012	VH-OEJ	B747-400	QF107	58J/36W/270Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
18/07/2012	VH-OJL	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
19/07/2012	VH-OJL	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
20/07/2012	VH-OJT	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
21/07/2012	VH-OJU	B747-400	QF107	58J/36W/270Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
22/07/2012	VH-OEH	B747-400	QF107	58J/36W/270Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
23/07/2012	VH-OEG	B747-400	QF107	58J/36W/270Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
24/07/2012	VH-OEB	B747-400	QF107	14F/66J/40W/187Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
25/07/2012	VH-OJQ	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
26/07/2012	VH-OJJ	B747-400	QF107	56J/40W/275Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
27/07/2012	VH-OJU	B747-400	QF107	58J/36W/270Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
28/07/2012	VH-OJM	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
30/07/2012	VH-OJM	B747-400	QF107	14F/52J/32W/255Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK
31/07/2012	VH-OEB	B747-400	QF107	14F/66J/40W/187Y	Los Angeles		New York JFK

 

[Rolls]

OMG Markis you are amazing!! Where do you find that information??
However my flight is 03Jan13 ......

 

[markis10]

OMG Markis you are amazing!! Where do you find that information??
However my flight is 03Jan13 ......

The Qantas Source has a nice route tracker where you can see all the data for historic flight ops, as for Jan next year, I reckon it will still be a lottery, just with lower odds as the last of the three 744s are done, leaving 5 F cabins from memory.

 

[mannej]

Thanks, do you know if QF 107 has a first class or would the seats in the nose be J??

I believe that the route itself is only 3 class (Y,Y+,J), however as Markis has alluded to, you may get a 747 with first class seating, but with business service.

 

[Rolls]

Ok Thanks will just have to wait and see.
I will have a look at the Qantas source now though, sounds fascinating

 

[markis10]

Dont forget its thought that FRA will go soon as a QF destination, that will free up some 747 fleet as well, I dont expect the f cabin birds to be in the fleet for too much longer:

Type	Delivery date	Registration	Remark	Seating	Status
747-438	11/08/1989	VH-OJA	Named City of Canberra	56J/40W/275Y
747-438	9/10/1989	VH-OJC	Named City of Melbourne	56J/40W/275Y
747-438	16/01/1990	VH-OJD	Named City of Brisbane	56J/356Y
747-438	26/01/1990	VH-OJE	Named City of Adelaide	56J/40W/275Y
747-438	30/08/1990	VH-OJH	Named City of Darwin	14F/52J/32W/ 255Y	Retiring 10/12, likes golf courses at BKK
747-438	21/12/1990	VH-OJI	Named Longreach	56J/40W/275Y
747-438	19/02/1991	VH-OJJ	Named Winton	56J/40W/275Y	Retiring 4/13
747-438	23/07/1991	VH-OJL	Named City of Ballarat	14F/52J/32W/ 255Y
747-438	17/09/1991	VH-OJM	Named Gosford	14F/52J/32W/ 255Y
747-438	18/09/1992	VH-OJQ	Named Mandurah	14F/52J/32W/ 255Y
747-438	30/09/1999	VH-OJS	Named Hamilton Island	Being converted
747-438	26/10/1999	VH-OJT	Named Fraser Island	Being converted
747-438	24/01/2000	VH-OJU	Named Lord Howe Island	Being converted
747-48E	29/05/1998	VH-OEB	Named Phillip Island	14F/66J/40W/ 183Y
747-438ER	6/12/2002	VH-OEE	Named Nullabor	58J/36W/270Y
747-438ER	31/10/2002	VH-OEF	Named Sydney	58J/36W/270Y
747-438ER	20/12/2002	VH-OEG	Named Parkes	58J/36W/270Y
747-438ER	9/02/2003	VH-OEH	Named Hervey Bay	58J/36W/270Y
747-438ER	26/06/2003	VH-OEI	Named Ceduna	58J/36W/270Y
747-438ER	30/07/2003	VH-OEJ		58J/36W/270Y

 

[Rolls]

Thanks Markis its complicated! Just trying to decide which J seats to choose......

 

[Rolls]

Addit If you are correct I have a JASA award to FRA which could be even more complicated as in "flight does not exist" UGH!

 

[Princess Fiona]

Bumping an old thread here but it looks like my two daughters will get to try out old F next week on QF107. The seat map has only 14 seats on a 747-400 and they are in 3 E/F. Neither of them have ever been there before so will make for a novelty start to the trip
Does the 4 class non-refurb operate this service regularly?

 

[serfty]

...
Does the 4 class non-refurb operate this service regularly?

I don't believe so - Qantas seem to be trying to have a consistent product across the Pacific, so the Skybed MkII craft are generally employed.

 

[markis10]

I don't believe so - Qantas seem to be trying to have a consistent product across the Pacific, so the Skybed MkII craft are generally employed.

Thats has not been the case the last couple of months for the 744 services both from SYD and BNE often having non refurb aircraft.

One of every three services this month has had a four class on QF107 while QF15 has been less effected but still seen it 4 times in terms of a four class and twice with OJA.

 

[serfty]

Thats has not been the case the last couple of months for the 744 services both from SYD and BNE often having non refurb aircraft.

One of every three services this month has had a four class on QF107 while QF15 has been less effected but still seen it 4 times in terms of a four class and twice with OJA.

Overall this year this it does not seem to have been the case - November may be special ...

 

[amaroo]

Bumping an old thread here but it looks like my two daughters will get to try out old F next week on QF107. The seat map has only 14 seats on a 747-400 and they are in 3 E/F. Neither of them have ever been there before so will make for a novelty start to the trip
Does the 4 class non-refurb operate this service regularly?

We're doing the LAX-JFK leg of QF107 in Dec and it's a refurbished bird......plenty of time for things to change I suppose. I wouldn't be upset to see a change for this short sector as we're already ensconced in the front cabin so not much of change....better ratio of seats/toilets aside.

Completely different view for our QF8 return trip in Jan......currently refurb and the 4 of us are sitting up stairs. If there is a late change we'd probably have a hard time getting relocated in the correct section.

 

[markis10]

Overall this year this it does not seem to have been the case - November may be special ...

I think you will find it ongoing for three reasons:

1. The refurbs are now approaching longer maintenace checks again after their honeymoon period given the refurb was done during similar checks.
2. Daily QF8 was not part of the original plan which is why 10 are now staying not 9.
3. OEB has finished her captains choice commitments and is now back in line flying (she will be the tenth).

 

[serfty]

I am assuming one of the refurbs is being "checked" at the moment.

 

[markis10]

I am assuming one of the refurbs is being "checked" at the moment.

OEE has been at AVV since 15th.

 

[moa999]

So has OEB been refurbed yet if it is staying