Pilot Obeys ATC Command; becomes News Ltd Headline

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I'm impressed that they got the airplane type correct in the picture they used. That's gotta be some sort of first...
 
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And why not they deserve it? I've been on a go-around and witnessed several over the last few years, and these have not needed reporting. I suspect if it had been a 737 or a Saab it would not have made the news, somehow the 747 has a newsworthiness to it that other aircraft types don't.

The whole nonews approach to all this is really sympotmatic of a wider issue with news coverage - and the divide it is causing within Australia - those who believe and take to heart the scaremongering and those who don't (aka "nonews bashers:). I do know a few people who (whilst happy to J-walk across a busy road), if they read this would mark this down as another reason why perhaps they should be even more scared of flying ...
 
I'm impressed that they got the airplane type correct in the picture they used. That's gotta be some sort of first...

Actually they didn't. The plane in the image is a B747SP, not a B747-400... Close but no cigar...

I'm still waiting for nonews to publish the go-around I had to do in WEL... Imagine that, they could have gone the whole "An australian survived" aspect....
 
I suspect if it had been a 737 or a Saab it would not have made the news, somehow

Anything with a roo on the tail is newsworthy apparently! :evil:
 
Landing aborted seconds from runway | Travel News | News.com.au

Landing aborted seconds from runway | Herald Sun

"A QANTAS plane was just 400 feet off the runway at Melbourne Airport when the pilot was forced to abort a landing this morning, because of congestion."

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1. Is the herald sun a news limited paper.
2. What I read was 2 pretty straight forward stories that present the facts
3. It is newsworthy because it is an australian airline, 300 people are a lot of people, who might have been in an accident with the "congestion", and it was a 747 the aircraft that lets us all get overseas from the remote Australian island - i.e. an iconic aircraft in the Australian situation.
4. "because of congestion" - this is news worthy because it is indicative of poor service from the government via Airservices Australia. i.e the controllers are getting the bashing for threaten the perfect record of the national carrier, Qantas. - implied conclusion IMO
5. by the same token - the airport is getting the bashing because of the congestion at their airport caused by poor facilities that threaten the perfect record of the YADA, YADA, YADA - again implied conclusion depending on interpretation
6. weren't you lot all here complaining about how the almost worst avaition disaster (EK late lift off) in Australian history was not reported in the papers. So they didn't report a takeoff/landing/airport incident and you whinge, now they do report it and you whinge :confused:

But then who cares?
 
2. What I read was 2 pretty straight forward stories that present the facts
Yes, its factual. But so would be reporting that I have had 2 cups of coffee this morning. Factual, yes ... newsworthy, not in my opinion.
4. "because of congestion" - this is news worthy because it is indicative of poor service from the government via Airservices Australia. i.e the controllers are getting the bashing for threaten the perfect record of the national carrier, Qantas. - implied conclusion IMO
I think you may be making an assumption as to the meaning of "congestion'. In terms of an ATC requested go-around, its most likely because the aircraft that landed ahead of the Qantas 747 had not yet cleared the runway. This is unlikely due to any government or Air services Australia limitation, but more likely the fault of the pilots of the aircraft in front taking longer than expected to clear the runway. How that becomes ATC, Qantas or Air Services problem is difficult to imagine (unless the aircraft in front was another Qantas aircraft).
5. by the same token - the airport is getting the bashing because of the congestion at their airport caused by poor facilities that threaten the perfect record of the YADA, YADA, YADA - again implied conclusion depending on interpretation
Go arounds due to "runway congestion" (i.e. previous aircraft has not cleared the runway in time) are common and happen very regularly at busy airports. At somewhere like LHR, I expect its even a daily occurrence (has happened to me twice at LHR). Such an occurrence is in no way a poor reflection on the airport, ATC, or airlines involved. Its a reflection of the fact that the proper safety controls are in place and being used properly.

In fact if the visual conditions were good at the time (9am) then its quite likely the pilot was aware of the situation and ready for the go-around before directed by ATC. The pilots probably had the best view of any previous aircraft failing to clear the runway in time.

The number of passengers on board, the type of aircraft or the operating airline makes no difference to the procedure or the probability of the requirement to execute the procedure.
6. weren't you lot all here complaining about how the almost worst avaition disaster (EK late lift off) in Australian history was not reported in the papers. So they didn't report a takeoff/landing/airport incident and you whinge, now they do report it and you whinge :confused:
I suggest there is a very different situation involved in the recently reported incident. One is following normal and correct procedure to avoid a potential catastrophic result, the other was a serious breach of procedure that almost caused catastrophic results.
 
unfortunately medhead, your post shows very little understanding of aviation and air traffic control.... NM's explanation is very good. Go around happen on a regular basis!

The news report should never have been made and must have resulted from some over paranoid passenger or witness who decided they'd call the papers.
 
1. Is the herald sun a news limited paper.
2. What I read was 2 pretty straight forward stories that present the facts

1. Yes the herald sun is a news limited paper.

2. +1 to NM's post above.

Also, in addition to the facts reports, an extra fact or two would have been useful (but made the story less newsworthy), for example a comment this is standard procedure that pilots are trained for (a fact), and is occassionally instigated to ensure safe operation at the airport (a fact), would have still presented facts but made it less scary.

It's always important to remember that "news" stories are actually not just facts speaking for themselves, but the facts presented in such a manner to maximise the appeal of the story and sell as many papers/attract as many hits or viewers as possible.
 
6. weren't you lot all here complaining about how the almost worst avaition disaster (EK late lift off) in Australian history was not reported in the papers. So they didn't report a takeoff/landing/airport incident and you whinge, now they do report it and you whinge :confused:

But then who cares?

Yes, but the EK incident was the closest we have ever come to having a major air disaster in Australia, and the newspapers barely mentioned it. Yet if a QF pilot sneezes it's front page news worthy...

Also since your so big on the facts been reported, why are some critical pieces of information missing, was 400 ft above or below decision height? Did the pilot still have enough fuel to do the procedure safely? Were any pax disadvantaged (eg missed connecting flights) due to the go-around, and if so how did QF handle that?

These are also facts which could be reported which would make it a much more complete article.

Again, no one is disputing that these are not the facts. People are critical of news limits choice of what facts to present in their pieces.
 
Landing aborted seconds from runway

Landing aborted seconds from runway | Travel News | News.com.au

A QANTAS plane was just 400 feet off the runway at Melbourne Airport when the pilot was forced to abort a landing this morning, because of congestion.


The 747 jumbo from Los Angeles was carrying 300 passengers when it had to pull out of the landing at the last minute, reports the Herald Sun.



The pilot was forced to circle the airport until the runway was cleared.

How is this one of the top stories on no news? Another slow news day I guess.
 
It's the internets fault. Too easy access to the media, who now don't need to go out looking for news worthy items. They just wait till the public emails them their life stories.
 
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WOW! I bet this is the only aircraft to go around at ANY airport at ANY time this century!
 
Good News never makes a paper sell !
But good old No News isnt the only culprit.Personally i have not trusted any australian newspapers reporting since 1969 when i was in rabaul.The SMH reported on the riots there with europeans hiding in their houses scared to come out.Actually I followed the march taking photos and stayed on the sidelines listening to the speeches in Pidgin until the police forceably broke up the meeting.The SMH report was so wide of the mark.
Now back to the subject Mrsdrron was on QF389 recently when it made 2 aborted landings during a typhoon.Sorry doesnt count-the plane didnt have the red rat on its tail:shock:.
 
This is only anecdotal but it seems to me that all of this anti-Qantas "reporting" is having an adverse effect on Qantas' reputation. I was having lunch with a group of eight last week and the topic of which airline to fly was raised. I came out in support of Qantas and at least three of the others replied that they were worried about safety issues on Qantas and so deliberately flew other airlines. One even cited "all the recent accidents" as her reason for avoiding Qantas! :shock: Needless to say the ensuing discussion was quite vigorous...
 
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