No soft landing to PS in my case, I have flown 1 sector and earned 80 QF SC

[AustraliaPoochie]

No mention of soft landing back to PS, as it says, 80 SC to keep SG on my account.
Does it mean since Simpler and Fairer/Fairer and Simpler, no soft landings anymore?
I am aiming to work my way to keeping SG by flying, at least till Jul 16.
My anniversary was Jul 15. 2 months in, plan to fly a bit more though.

 

[incumbent]

Can you explain when you first qualified and how? I seem to remember someone explaining this to you before. In any case, the "soft landing" is not something that would ever appear officially, for obvious reasons.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

No mention of soft landing back to PS, as it says, 80 SC to keep SG on my account.
Does it mean since Simpler and Fairer/Fairer and Simpler, no soft landings anymore?
I am aiming to work my way to keeping SG by flying, at least till Jul 16.
My anniversary was Jul 15. 2 months in, plan to fly a bit more though.

Your account will only show the status credits required to keep your current status, or to move up to the next level.

If you don't qualify for the current level, you'll drop one level (each year) until you eventually get back to bronze (or higher if you have qualified for lifetime status).

This 'benefit' is not stated anywhere.

 

[RichardMEL]

I'm confused (what else is new? )

You're what, 3 months (2 and a bit) months into your new year (starting 01AUG) and you've flown 1 sector for 80SC (but didn't you just do ADL-MEL-WLG?). anyway that aside, that presumes you have 80SC's posted to your account, but apparently qf.com is showing you "require" 80SC more to retain Gold? that seems unlikely. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting your post......

At any rate, you attained Gold during your last membership year (ending 31JUL) which carries forward into this year (sinc eyou got there in the past membership year IIRC) thus your gold is valid until 31JUL16 right? so if anything it should be saying 520SC to retain Gold but soft landings doesn't come into it, unless you have less than 250SC in this membership year, in which case you'd fall to PS after 01AUG16. Since you say you're working to retain SG this year, then soft landings are irrelevant.

So what's the question again?

 

[mannej]

I am with RichardMEL here, I am a touch confused.

AP, can you clarify what status you are currently as that may help alleviate some of the confusion.

 

[Steady]

AP, maybe to remove confusion you could do a screenshot of your status credit wheel and the info just below it ( fits just right with a smart phone or tablet)

Looking at mine there is no personal info.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Ah, nothing official.
ADL - MEL was in QF whY classic award. Not P + P.
MEL - WLG was in paid J. 80 QF SC.
WLG - SYD was in whY with NZ. Got 15 VA SC.
SYD - ADL was in QF whY classic award. Not P + P.
Thanks anyway.

 

[RichardMEL]

OK you've explained the 80 SC's, but you haven't explained the rest?

 

[TheInsider]

It think what AP means is that he was Gold, and dropped to Bronze. This is due to the fact he hasn't done the required 4~ sectors for a soft landing to Silver.
Otherwise I don't have a clue what AP is on about?

 

[incumbent]

Here was a previous explanation. What's changed since?

Doggy doggy doggy dude, I think people have tried to explain this to you before...

You hit the qualification for SG in December 2014, right?

And your year ends in July?

So you got it for the rest of your current year at the time (through July 2015), and then the whole next year (through July 2016). That's normal.

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[RichardMEL]

Thanks Incumbent... that's what I thought the situation is

 

[incumbent]

So whether or not the OP gets a soft landing won't be known until July 2016. Nothing to do with S&F. At all.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Does one neeed to fly the 4 sectors to be eligible for the soft landing?
Is that necessary to requalify under the 3 year average "(unpublished) rule" as well?

 

[RichardMEL]

Isn't the 3 year rule in terms of a comp to the current status level (ie: he's Gold, he only gets 480 SC this membership year) type deal. I don't think it's relevant to the soft landing. If all he has for this membership year is 80, and does no more QF SC generating flying, then, in theory, a soft landing to PS should occur post 01AUG next year. Right now, it's not relevant at all to AP.

It seems that maybe AP might do well to re-read this page on the QF website:
https://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/flying/status-credits

[h=3]How to reach Status[/h] To reach Silver membership and above, you'll need to earn a certain number of Status Credits and take at least four eligible Qantas, QantasLink or Jetstar flights* in each membership year. And, once you've qualified for Silver, Gold, Platinum or Platinum One, you get to enjoy the benefits for at least 12 months. The earlier in your membership year you reach the Status Credits required, the longer you get to enjoy the benefits.

So, key points:

*at least* 12 months.

in AP's case, as per above, he made SG in his 2014 membership year (01AUG14-31JUL15) in December 14, which means he had the rest of his 2014 membership year, and 2015. His membership anniversary would say his Gold status is valid will July 31, 2016.

At least as I understand the situation.

bolding is my own...

 

[esseeeayeenn]

I'm not talking about his case, which seems to be hopelessly confusing, I'm asking in general and for my own information next year.

 

[RichardMEL]

I'm not talking about his case, which seems to be hopelessly confusing, I'm asking in general and for my own information next year.

ah OK.

tbh I've wondered too in the case of things like lifetime status.

Logic suggests (so who knows how QFF treats it) the soft landing would be applied only if the 4~ are attained in the previous membership year, since 4~ are required for any status on QF:

to reach Silver membership and above, you'll need to earn a certain number of Status Credits and take at least four eligible Qantas, QantasLink or Jetstar flights* in each membership year.

Seems pretty clear.

 

[incumbent]

I haven't heard of someone being demoted from say Platinum to Silver or below as a result of not having four flights.

Someone did report not getting a second year of "free" Platinum under the three years rule after having had P1, and not meeting the "four flights" requirement.

There will probably be more empirical evidence as previous big ASA users filter through the system.

 

[hutch]

I'm confused :-(

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Does one neeed to fly the 4 sectors to be eligible for the soft landing?
Is that necessary to requalify under the 3 year average "(unpublished) rule" as well?

Don't know about comp status on three-year average, but soft landing does not require any ~. You can be platinum, never set foot on another QF flight, or any other flight, and you'll descend to gold, silver and finally bronze.

Lifetime status is maintained without any flying.

 

[RichardMEL]

Don't know about comp status on three-year average, but soft landing does not require any ~. You can be platinum, never set foot on another QF flight, or any other flight, and you'll descend to gold, silver and finally bronze.

Lifetime status is maintained without any flying.

Which seems to be a nice perk (though not terribly useful if one doesn't fly ) since it violates QF's own polcy on attaining status. Maybe "violate" is not the right word, but it's nice if it's a real soft landing in the sense of no other requirements needed