New: one way AAwards

[LuisT]

So is it possible to book these online, or do I need to call AA?

Looking at the partner award chart, looks like a one-way J fare LAX-SYD would be 62.5k miles - is that correct?

Thanks,

LT

 

[NM]

So is it possible to book these online, or do I need to call AA?

I don't think you can book a partner award on-line yet, though they are supposed to be working on that capability.

Looking at the partner award chart, looks like a one-way J fare LAX-SYD would be 62.5k miles - is that correct?

Yes, that is what the new chart is showing. Not bad value really.

 

[LuisT]

I don't think you can book a partner award on-line yet, though they are supposed to be working on that capability

Thanks... What about availability - is there any way to check that online before calling?

LT

 

[NM]

Thanks... What about availability - is there any way to check that online before calling?

LT

Not on the aa.com site. I use my QF FF account to look got QF and BA award availability, CX Asia Miles account for CX availability and JAL JMB account to check for JL award availability. CX and JL accounts can be created with no joining fee and award searches can be made with a zero account balance.

 

[futaris]

If you can see availability on the QANTAS website, then you should be able to redeem via phone.

AA award travel stopover/transit rules *REVISED w/ ROUTING rules* - FlyerTalk Forums

 

[NM]

If you can see availability on the QANTAS website, then you should be able to redeem via phone.

That is only true for Qantas Silver or Bronze accounts. A Qantas Gold or Platinum account can see additional economy award availability that is not available to partner airline programs. So a Gold or Platinum QF FF account may see economy availability that cannot be redeemed by calling AA.

 

[LuisT]

Thanks...

Not much availability (early July - to be expected I guess). Is there much chance of something becoming available?

Also - I assume there's no way to book Premium Economy through AA?

LT

 

[futaris]

Route through AKL. Avail on 8 Jul. 747-400.

 

[JohnK]

Not much availability (early July - to be expected I guess). Is there much chance of something becoming available?

If you were travelling in August it would be a different story.

For a limited time only, you can take your pick of thousands more Classic Award seats on international Qantas flights worldwide.

We're releasing 50% extra seats in Economy and Premium Economy for travel between 1 August and 15 September 2009 than were available yesterday, all at the fantastic Qantas Classic Award seat points level.


For example, as at 12 May for travel between 1 August and 15 September 2009, the total number of one way Classic Award seats available on Qantas flights† on the following routes is:

12,000 seats - between Australia and New Zealand
10,000 seats - between Australia and Asia
6,000 seats - between Australia and USA

 

[adrian]

No, the Oneway awards do apply to Partner awards.
Not really applicable for OneWorld awards anyway.
The Partner awards table has been updated on AA.com:
AAdvantage All-Partner Airline Award Chart

Wow. That is seriously great for repositioning etc. 60,000 points for o/w to Europe on BA J.....

To put it in perspective, you can buy currently buy 52000 points with AA for US$1030... almost enough points for that ticket.

 

[LuisT]

Route through AKL. Avail on 8 Jul. 747-400.

Thanks - hadn't thought of that...

So can I book that as one leg, or will it be 2?

 

[futaris]

Use Multi-City Search

e.g LAX-AKL 08Jul09
AKL-SYD/MEL/BNE-CBR 10Jul09

 

[LuisT]

Use Multi-City Search

e.g LAX-AKL 08Jul09
AKL-SYD/MEL/BNE-CBR 10Jul09

Thanks, but I was more thinking in terms of AA points (i.e. can I do all that for 62.5k points, or will it be more for multiple legs)...

 

[futaris]

Yes. NB, You could do JFK-LAX-AKL-SYD-PER for 62.5k in J assuming you could find availability. No stopovers allowed though.

 

[LuisT]

Yes. NB, You could do JFK-LAX-AKL-SYD-PER for 62.5k in J assuming you could find availability. No stopovers allowed though.

So I just tried to book a flight LAX-AKL-SYD-CBR over the phone, the lady said that the computer wouldn't let her do it.

She said she could see the availability, but couldn't book it and it was telling her to "book as one" or something.

Is there a reason why this would happen? There's only one seat left from LAX-AKL and I want to try and get it!

 

[wandering_fred]

There have been a number of posts on linked segment pairs
Where I don't recall at the moment

Basically aaa-ccc is not available but aaa-bbb and bbb-ccc are but the latter two being on the same airline they will only permit aaa-ccc.

Fred

 

[JonNYC]

So I just tried to book a flight LAX-AKL-SYD-CBR over the phone, the lady said that the computer wouldn't let her do it.

She said she could see the availability, but couldn't book it and it was telling her to "book as one" or something.

Is there a reason why this would happen? There's only one seat left from LAX-AKL and I want to try and get it!

I know that 2 weeks ago LAX-AKL was among the awards (and there are many) that were reported as "not pricing" and had to be overridden to create the award. Don't know if they solved that yet, but if -that's- the problem, you need to find someone who knows how to override. Not sure what effect the additional segments have in this instance, but if they are still having the LAX-AKL problem, this certainly can't make it any easier.
Maybe call and ask for just LAX-xAKL-SYD as a test and see if that works.

Additionally, while on some QF fares LAX-CBR I see "MPM 9170" on -other- QF fares I see routings specified, but I can't tell which applies and if it matters-- off hand, I -think- that award routing should be ticketable.

 

[LuisT]

I know that 2 weeks ago LAX-AKL was among the awards (and there are many) that were reported as "not pricing" and had to be overridden to create the award. Don't know if they solved that yet, but if -that's- the problem, you need to find someone who knows how to override. Not sure what effect the additional segments have in this instance, but if they are still having the LAX-AKL problem, this certainly can't make it any easier.
Maybe call and ask for just LAX-xAKL-SYD as a test and see if that works.

Additionally, while on some QF fares LAX-CBR I see "MPM 9170" on -other- QF fares I see routings specified, but I can't tell which applies and if it matters-- off hand, I -think- that award routing should be ticketable.

Called again, and no luck. The woman didn't really seem to know what she was doing though, so I'm not convinced it can't be done...

If there are routings specified, does that mean that they must be followed?

 

[JonNYC]

If there are routings specified, does that mean that they must be followed?

My understanding is yes. And an over-all "most direct routing" logic applies as well. But I haven't seen enough examples to know what kind of awards that were allowable under the old rules are not allowed under the new rules-- aside from ones that greatly exceed the MPM (on MPM routes.) But, there clearly are awards that used to be possible that no longer are.
NOT to say the problem you're having is that, -or-, the internally well-documented problem getting certain awards (awards that are (or will be) allowable) to go through.