Mileage run in F.. bargain

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RichardKopf

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I've found a great first class fare. Only downside is that you have to get to Colombo.

First route I found was CMB-HKG in J, then TG/LH in F via LON, then AA/BA to USA cost - about AUF2300 inc taxes.

You can buy MH SYD-KUL-CMB for about the same, so for 4600 you earn a lot of miles/status credits (abt 730, I think)

The problem is getting home from US
 
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Do you have any more details?

E.g. what are the cities involved in Europe and the US? What booking engine did you use? Dates?
 
this has been around for years but is often not spoken of for fear of it vanishing. there is more possibilities than you mention
 
Reply to all. orangehenry sent a PM but his box is full so I can't respond.

Fare Basis AOWISC. It costs about USD1800 plus taxes, plated to AA

I suggest you contact your travel agent as this is a bit too complex for an untrained person.

The rules are below, for anyone who can understand them. Based on CMD-CHI but available to many AA cities in US at slightly different fare levels.
These are the rules, as loaded into Galileo for AA, but they are far from complete and many variations do not fare quote. I couldn't get it to work with a TG sector unless it was booked as LH code.
If you have access to a GDS or a friendly agent, plug away.

The one I sold was a combination of value and status credits. as required by the traveller. I used CX, LH on TG metal, LH, AA or BA metal.

N.B. This seems to be for direct travel only, as I can't get it to quote with a stop.

Enjoy!

>FN*1/ALL
001 CMBCHI 22JUN13 AA LKR 215100 AOWISC STAY---/-- BK-A
0. APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
RULE - 001/IN94
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
PREMIUM CLASS FARES BETWEEN THE U.S.A. AND THE INDIAN
SUBCONTINENT
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND AFGHANISTAN/BANGLADESH/
INDIA/NEPAL/PAKISTAN/SRI LANKA/MYANMAR.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
4. FLIGHT APPLICATION
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY SN FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF
ANY TG FLIGHT OPERATED BY KF.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UL FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY
ANY EY FLIGHT OPERATED BY UL.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AP FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF
AP FLIGHTS 1621 THROUGH 1632
AZ FLIGHTS 2400 THROUGH 3999
AZ FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
IB FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY VS FLIGHT.
5. ADVANCE RES/TICKETING
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
OPEN RETURNS NOT PERMITTED.
WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 28 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE FIRST SECTOR.
8. STOPOVERS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
9. TRANSFERS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING -
2 ONLINE ON THE PRIMARY CARRIER
2 ONLINE EXCLUDING THE PRIMARY CARRIER
3 INTERLINE INCLUDING THE PRIMARY CARRIER
2 INTERLINE EXCLUDING THE PRIMARY CARRIER
FREE IN AREA 2/AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
ONLINE ON THE PRIMARY CARRIER
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
10. PERMITTED COMBINATIONS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH ANY
FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF TO FORM
SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOTE -
ADDONS PERMITTED
12. SURCHARGES
BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 FOR A- TYPE FARES
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - INE UNDER 02.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ INFANTS
2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG
3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENGY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS
4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR LX.
A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENGY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM MEXICO.
AND - THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER COUPON.
NOTE -
YR FEE MAY APPLY
A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENGY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON
WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE
FROM MEXICO.
ORIGINATING AREA 3 -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 300.00 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.
15. SALES RESTRICTIONS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
16. PENALTIES
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED.
NOTE -
CANCELLATIONS ARE PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
OF ORIGINAL TICKET.
FOR CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE THE REFUND WILL
BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FARE PAID AND FARE FOR
JOURNEY TRAVELLED.
-----
FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE -
A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
MODIFICATION.
CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
ORIGINAL TICKET.
--------------------------------------------------
WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE THE
PENALTY CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT
WILL APPLY.
--------------------------------------------------
CALCULATION OF REISSUES
//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES
IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
-----
WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
--------------------------------------------------
//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
-----
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE
AMOUNT THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED.
-----
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
AMOUNT A REFUND OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT LESS THE
APPLICABLE PENALTY WILL BE MADE.
19. CHILDREN DISCOUNTS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT.
20. TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
TOUR CONDUCTOR - NO DISCOUNT.
21. AGENT DISCOUNTS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
AGENT - NO DISCOUNT.
22. ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT.
NOTE -
RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
23. MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
FOR A- TYPE FARES
THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE HIGH OR THE LOW FARE
WHEN CALCULATING A DIFFERENTIAL. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE
USED AS THE THROUGH FARE WHEN PRICING A FARE COMPONENT
WITH A DIFFERENTIAL.
31. VOLUNTARY CHANGES
DO A CATEGORY 31 SPECIFIC TEXT ENTRY TO VIEW CONTENTS
ALSO REFERENCE 16 PENALTIES - FOR ADDITIONAL CHANGE INFORMATION
 
As this fare is plated to AA would I be able to direct SC & points to QFF even though I'm on QR metal?
 
The latest news on Business Traveller is for QR to join OW in October this year. Would we expect these fares to hold out until then/ is it possible to purchase now and credit to QF once they join? (looking to fly in late Jan 14)
 
The latest news on Business Traveller is for QR to join OW in October this year. Would we expect these fares to hold out until then/ is it possible to purchase now and credit to QF once they join? (looking to fly in late Jan 14)

No idea, but a Google search brought up a FT thread that these fares have been around since, at least, 2007. Sri Lanka is just a poor country and it's cheap to fly from there.
 
Back in 2006 Sri Lanka was very very cheap for oneworld *ONE fares.... Not any more.
My 20-segment paper ticket was issued for under $4500.
 
The latest news on Business Traveller is for QR to join OW in October this year. Would we expect these fares to hold out until then/ is it possible to purchase now and credit to QF once they join? (looking to fly in late Jan 14)
I do not think there will be any conditions on when they were booked to earn QF SCs and QFF points in January 2014.

You just need to hope that Qatar actually joins in October 2013 as planned and not end up joining February 2014.
 
Yeh not worth the risk, especially if these fares have existed since 2006.
 
The best was when you could book EK in F all the way through to LHR. Shame that is no more.
 
Back in 2006 Sri Lanka was very very cheap for oneworld *ONE fares.... Not any more.
My 20-segment paper ticket was issued for under $4500.

What are their DONE4/AONE4 tickets pricing like now? ANda re they still cheaper than JNB?
 
What are their DONE4/AONE4 tickets pricing like now? ANda re they still cheaper than JNB?

DONE4 base fare about 9200
AONE4 base fare about 16080

so a bit cheaper than from AU but there are better deals out there
 
How do you start investigating these interesting possibilities??

And so its J CMB-HKG then F HKG-LHR-JFK for about $2600 eh???
 
Does anyone know a good agent for booking these complex fares?

Yes.

Happy to hook you up. A US-based TA.

He has some rules though. e.g. "no fuel dumps" (because TA's get charged the missing taxes on these).

He was able to book some ex-CMB QF fares for me during my DSC.

PM me your email address and I'll intro you.
 
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