Jetstar problems

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Has anyone else had a similar experience with Jetstar?
(I will just post the letter i sent them which they never answered.)

The Manager
Complaints Department
Jetstar
GPO Box 4713
Melbourne 3001


URGENT
Subject: Jetstar Flight Itinerary for xx_xx_xx_xx_X(Booking ref# WR1JLE) JQ64 10/07/2008 20:15, JQ385 11/07/2008 06:30, JQ926 01/08/2008 07:35, JQ63 01/08/2008 12:25

Attention The Manager,

We have travelled to and from Japan 5 times by QANTAS and never had a problem.
Knowing that Jetstar was owned by QANTAS we gambled that the service would be similar.

After spending an hour trying to book online (after answering the100 questions the system would tell us that it had a problem processing "at the moment" and to please try again later or book by phone)... we gave up after an hour of trying and then phoned to book.

We spent around 30 minutes on the phone answering all the questions again and waiting while the person checked into the internet problem and then finally took our booking.
He then told us the price which was about $50 more than it had been when I tried to book online.
By this time I had had enough and just asked to confirm that he had definitely included the comfort pack, flight entertainment and meals, for all four flights for both of us and he confirmed that he had.
None of this was handled efficiently or satisfactorily but the booking was completed and confirmed by email.

When it came time on the first flight for the comfort packs to be handed out we were not given them.
I asked why and was told I had not paid for them - I advised that we had.
My partner sat shivering (it was summer in Nagoya when we left but the aircraft was cold) for 20 minutes until the cabin manager came and told me that I hadn't paid for them... I expressed my dissatisfaction and advised again that I had paid for them, that my partner was cold and that I wanted a blanket for her.
Finally they got her one. (But didn’t get me one.)




When it came time for meals we went through it all again with the cabin manager and he finally agreed to bring us meals after everyone else "who had paid for meals" had been served. (I found that insulting and reminded him again that we had paid.)
By this time we had not eaten in nine hours but were forced to watch those around us eat, by the time we were served (a vegetarian meal and a pork - no choice) everyone else had eaten which made this a further embarrassment.
The cabin manager handled both these exchanges poorly and by his attitude and solutions inferred I was lying about having paid - many other passengers heard these exchanges and it was very embarrassing for both of us.
(I was told by one of the other in-flight staff later that she was also embarrassed for us at how badly he had handled it.)

We were never provided with in-flight entertainment.

As you will see from your records (or the attachments) we did ask and pay for everything to be provided (I consider this whole penny pinching choices policy nothing but an inconvenience - this is international travel not a flea market - and obviously the way it is administered leaves it vulnerable to errors).

I am very unhappy about this whole experience and expect Jetstar to resolve this to our satisfaction promptly.

We will be returning to Japan on 1st August and I would be satisfied with a confirmed upgrade to Business Class for both of us on both flights.

xx_xx_ xx_xx_X
TheJapanChannel.com

0439 xx_xx_xx_


PS This was sent to Jetstar by email ( to the address our booking confirmation came from) on 12th July. By 16th July we had received no response so we phoned Jetstar.
We waited on hold for 15 minutes before being answered.
We then asked for an email address for Jetstar but were told you don’t have one.
We asked to speak to a supervisor, waited on hold for another 5 minutes and then were disconnected by the operator.
After calling back and waiting another 15 minutes we were told that Jetstar only deal with complaints by post and we should mail it to you.
We advised that this was difficult as we are only in the country a short time and needed this resolved quickly.
If this isn’t resolved to our satisfaction before we return to Japan we will be taking a number of further actions.

** They since refunded the cost of the 3 "options" but it doesnt compensate us for discomfort and embarrassment during the 8 hour flight.

 
Is there a reason this is in bold?

Did you have a copy of your email confirmation regarding the various packs you were entitled to? That would resolved much of this I think.

I am a kindof seasoned traveller but I still travel with as much documentation as might be useful.
 
Did you have your receipts with you onboard to show the cabin staff?
If you did not then you are as much at fault.Demanding an upgrade is not the answer in resolving any customer service issue. Please keep us informed of developments
 
Having not dealt with a bargain basement airline before, I only printed the page with the booking confirmation and flight details and didnt see any reason to print and take any more.
I assumed they would know who paid and who didnt.
They MUST have a list somewhere or they wouldnt know how many meals or entertainment systems to have on board.
There was also nothing in the fine print to say that it was my responsibility to prove to them that I had paid - and I think saying that I am as much at fault is a bit rough and/or rude.
(I am not totally ignorant about air travel. I live in Japan and commute regularly and am a commercial pilot.)

I would also add that I just asked if anyone else had the same problem, didnt particular ask for a critique of my actions, thanks anyway.
 
It is the nature of International and local travel that you must take all your documentation with you. Take documentation with you for Airlines,Hotels,Car rental etc for it ensures that you get what you are entitled to and what you have paid for/ordered.These situations are usually not resolved adequately after the event but can be quickly resolved by dealing with them at the time.
Never demand remedies from airlines, if you are polite you will often be surprised by their response but YMMV.
 
Thanks AGAIN for your advice.
I am ONLY asking if anyone has had the same problems and only posted the letter to see if others have had the same problem.
If you havent, then maybe you can move on to "helping" someone else :)

AGAIN, I will also add that I am not ignorant about international travel, I have been doing it for 32 years and live in a foreign country.
 
Sorry next time I will check with the n00b to see if if my post is acceptable.

The other option would be doing a search on JQ problems (of which this website has some) rather than asking if someone has has similar problems to you - more likely to find some matches. Although I struggle to see the point unless you are aiming for some form of group therapy?

Do you have an outcome you are trying to achieve through seeking others' experiences?
 
Thanks AGAIN for your advice.
I am ONLY asking if anyone has had the same problems and only posted the letter to see if others have had the same problem.
If you havent, then maybe you can move on to "helping" someone else :)

AGAIN, I will also add that I am not ignorant about international travel, I have been doing it for 32 years and live in a foreign country.

I am sure that if you are patient, you will get everything you deserve;)
 
Jetstar is an interesting airline. They hide under the wings of Qantas when they want to, but shy away from even knowing who Qantas is when it suits them.

I doubt your experience is unique. Certainly Jetstar has a poor reputation for customer service and complaint follow-up.

A similar-yet-not-so-similar (complaint wise) story with some interesting ideas is here:
http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...bumped-down-from-jetstar-starlclass-9649.html

Worth a read for how you might pursue your complaint with Jetstar if you wanted to take things further.

BTW, Welcome to AFF!
 
Before I start, I don't mean to be critical of your actions, this is just what I've thought as I read your account of what happened.

Of course it's not good what happened to you, but what I and, from what I've read, others on this site, are trying to do is to offer some tips so it doesn't happen again.

So, a few things:

1) The Jetstar booking engine sends out itineraries automatically, so the email address used is unmanned, which would explain why you haven't received a reply.

2) Jetstar is not Qantas. They're related when it suits them (such as the prescence of 'A QantasGroup Airline' on their international aircraft), but they operate independently of each other (or claim to, at least.) Jetstar are a low-cost carrier, and expectations should be lowered accordingly.

(Having said that, whenever I've flown with them, they've been pretty good)

3) All prepaid entitlements (such as comfort packs, food, and IFE) are recorded on the Jetstar boarding pass. In your case, I believe your boarding pass should read 'SPML IFCP'.

If it does, and you've kept the BP, then you have a legitimate case for some compensation. If it doesn't, then there is no record that you ordered anything, which is the fault of the agent who booked it, and not the cabin crew.

4) As superchris mentioned, demanding compensation from the airlines (especially Jetstar) is not the best way to go about getting it. Be persitent but polite and you'll have a better chance.

Best of luck.
 
Typical internet forum, 75% know-alls with smart comments and 25% worthwhile comment :)

Mal! You are the 25%!
Congratulations and thanks very much mate :)
YOU addressed the question! :)
 
Thanks AGAIN for your advice.
I am ONLY asking if anyone has had the same problems and only posted the letter to see if others have had the same problem.
If you havent, then maybe you can move on to "helping" someone else :)

AGAIN, I will also add that I am not ignorant about international travel, I have been doing it for 32 years and live in a foreign country.
TheJapanChannel,

Welcome to AFF.

Please be patient with people. Currently people have seen your post as agressive as it is in bold and have asked you why and you have not answered them either. They are largely attempting to get some information from you that may/may not help in getting an appropriate answer back to you.

In addition they have suggested that as an experienced traveller they believe you would normally take copies of all appropriate documentation with you and that this is not a unique requirement of just LCC but all carriers and hotels.

To answer your question I have not had this issue with Jetstar but I've only flown with them between Oz and NZ and within Oz so the situation is different.
 
I understand what you are saying but i asked only one question.
It is only the answer to that question that I am seeking and maybe some further correspondence with those who have had the same experience.
I am sure some of the advice i well intentioned - and to those I say "thank you" - but it isnt what I asked for or want, thanks anyway.
 
Typical internet forum, 75% know-alls with smart comments and 25% worthwhile comment :)

Mal! You are the 25%!
Congratulations and thanks very much mate :)
YOU addressed the question! :)


Man I wish I went to the forums you went to - normally they peak at 1% usefulness.

Just for clarification - did Mal provide a similar story or just another example of JQ poor customer service - which technically was not what you asked for?
 
Man I wish I went to the forums you went to - normally they peak at 1% usefulness.

Just for clarification - did Mal provide a similar story or just another example of JQ poor customer service - which technically was not what you asked for?

And how is this worthwhile???????
This post is certainly not "technically" what i asked for.
 
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Another forum where nobody talks about the topic just plays games to try and show how witty/clever/ smarter/ more experienced or funnier than everyone else they are.
The game is usually played by people with WAY too much spare time because they dont have a real life and try to develop some identity for themselves by sprouting their **** on the net.

I am not going to rake through any more of it to try to get something worthwhile out of it.
Enjoy your cyber lives.
 
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