Enhancement [Decline] of Meals in Business (Dom and Int)

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I have been in Europe this past month and upon my return, starting with QF6 on 13 Jan, I have noticed an extreme decline in either the choices or portion sizes of meals aboard QF J.

It has been one year since I have been on board for a breakfast service aboard QF Int in J (having flown on CX, EK and in F other times) but my oh my has the service fallen extremely far. January 2013 flying QF1 into LHR, I remember being served quite a substantial and full continental breakfast with my order being taken before I went to sleep. This was for the usual early morning arrival. On QF6 on 13 Jan this year (the extremely bland and sterile service being another issue entirely), I was delighted that the 'Café Breakfast' I would be served was a palm-sized ham and cheese croissant. Now, I understand that for an eight hour flight, there will be one more substantial meal and one refreshment sized meal. But honestly, this is beyond a joke, even for a refreshment sized meal. Does QF really expect me to have my wonderful croissant and then starve for another 1.5-2 hours until I step out at arrivals? At the time, I was beyond disappointed; I was angry. For the first time, it felt like I did not get my moneys worth.

Another issue with the meal on this flight was timing. I'm not sure how other pax eat, but looking at the timing of the flight, surely the substantial meal should be the breakfast. I mean, who truly wants to eat dinner at 11:30pm at night? (Or 2:30am Sydney time.) Absolutely ridiculous. I would think that most people have eaten by that time.

As for the domestic meals, 90% of the time I fly during the lunch hour. For me, it kills two birds with one stone. I'm not sure if this is a permanent change, but aboard QF431 on 14 Jan and QF430 today (both lunch services), I was offered either Salad, Soup or Cheese. I remember getting more substantial meals like fish curries, lasagnas, etc. in the not-too-distant-past for lunch. Is the downgrade to Salad, Soup or Cheese a permanent enhancement for the lunch service? Also, the second bread choice also seems to be enhanced away. Previously, I remember getting a choice of either a roll or bread. If I opted for the bread, I would be given two slices. Now, not only is there no option, but I am only given one slice of bread to go with my starter salad. (On a side note, cheese is not a meal; it is a desert or refreshment. To offer it as a main lunch meal -- inside a cardboard box no less -- is insulting.)

Of course, I understand that QF is in cost-cutting mode. But what point is there in cutting so many services when customers who have been loyal for years decide that it's time to switch to the competition? Having already retained SG 16 days into my membership year, once I retain WP I think it is time that I start giving VA a proper go.
 
Your lucky two meals are served SIN SYD, it's not the case going the reverse ex BNE !
 
Thing is, I can understand one proper meal being served for a daytime flight that goes for around 6-7 hours. But service needs to adapt to flight timings. In this case, it is a 7:55 overnight flight that arrives at 9:15. I expect a half-decent breakfast.
 
At the time, I was beyond disappointed; I was angry. For the first time, it felt like I did not get my moneys worth.

Also, the second bread choice also seems to be enhanced away. Previously, I remember getting a choice of either a roll or bread. If I opted for the bread, I would be given two slices. Now, not only is there no option, but I am only given one slice of bread to go with my starter salad.

Strictly speaking to "get your money's worth" you would need to drink enough booze to induce a coma.

And your bread... you must feel so robbed. How dare they.
 
Strictly speaking to "get your money's worth" you would need to drink enough booze to induce a coma.

And your bread... you must feel so robbed. How dare they.

In and of itself the bread is no issue. But when coupled with the fact that the most substantial option for lunch is a salad, then I do feel robbed. I should be able to fill up on some bread in lieu of a proper lunch.
 
have to agree qantas business catering has many problems. the actual main meal service is incredible slow on those asia-australia overnight flights too. It took 3 hours after departure before dinner was finished on QF23 the other day.
 
have to agree qantas business catering has many problems. the actual main meal service is incredible slow on those asia-australia overnight flights too. It took 3 hours after departure before dinner was finished on QF23 the other day.

I took that flight earlier this year and suffered the same fate. I'd ordered the chicken roll (best of a bad lot) hoping for a quick dinner and lot of sleep.

After a couple of hours of stuffing about I asked for my pre-ordered meal so I could eat and sleep. It was promptly delivered and then I slept without waiting for dessert. Didn't bother with the cafe breakfast having been disappointed with it previously. The breakfast on the SYD-MEL leg was so much better.

Don't know why it took so long but really, on an approximately 8 hour overnight flight dinner should be done ASAP especially in J which I flew so people can get to sleep.


The meal service is a disappointment on QFi. Either fix it properly or just abandon it. Seriously, just say you either cannot do them or cannot be bothered doing them and bring self serve. LAG restrictions will need to be lifted and an extra rubbish run done but that's it.
 
Strictly speaking to "get your money's worth" you would need to drink enough booze to induce a coma.

And your bread... you must feel so robbed. How dare they.
Depends on how people value their money :). I think it is pretty impossible to add up all the components and say OK I am getting exactly what I paid - it is more a package that makes it worthwhile for you. We don't drink much, but food is quite important to us (In spite of Mr FM weighing less than 60 kg and I am not exactly overweight either). To us an enjoyable meal on the plane is part of the fun of flying, not that worried about domestic J, but all the tales of problems at the premium end internationally make me more inclined to try other carriers. We have actually booked on Emirates metal for later in the year mainly because of an underwhelming J experience to JNB in September....
 
Had a terrible meal on QF107 LAX-JFK a couple of weeks ago......have had quite a few dud QF Int J meals lately!

Details will be coming up in the TR I've started today.....
 
Qantas will keep chipping away at the service until there are no more complaints - largely because there are no more customers. The airline will then resemble Jetstar to the extent that the two will be merged.
 
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There's a slogan in Qantas' current campaign that states "It's about Australia's finest restaurant in the sky".

And found this on a media site... Olivia Wirth, group executive – brand, marketing and corporate affairs said in a statement: “The reason we went with ‘It’s About’ is because it focuses on the things that matter most to our passengers, so it’s a great opportunity to profile the way Qantas has kept evolving its product and service.”

Sounds like the food product and service is evolving into a major disappointment for many!
 
Hopefully Red Roo is monitoring this and other threads and passing along the feedback as appropriate!
 
Hopefully Red Roo is monitoring this and other threads and passing along the feedback as appropriate!

I hope so because the significant drop in quality is an extreme embarrassment. I don't know how the marketing department currently has the face to go on about the finest restaurant in the sky.

I will say that in the past, I looked forward to food aboard QF J. (I still look forward to food in F -- at least that doesn't seem to have changed... yet.)

We have actually booked on Emirates metal for later in the year

My upcoming Int bookings are all currently on EK metal until these issues are resolved. The upgrade of the A330 J seats is an overdue step in the right direction but that's for another thread.
 
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honestly the list of issues is getting quite long now and there doesn't seem to be a positive response as to how these are being addressed at a strategic level. Even if they are not high priority maybe just tell us that?

it feels like it is getting to the point where the negatives are outweighing the positives.
 
honestly the list of issues is getting quite long now and there doesn't seem to be a positive response as to how these are being addressed at a strategic level. Even if they are not high priority maybe just tell us that?

it feels like it is getting to the point where the negatives are outweighing the positives.

I must agree. On the domestic side, it seems now that the only positives remaining (for me) are next-gen check-in and a separate business lounge. The latter isn't even that important considering I only pop in for about 5-10 minutes before a flight. On the international side, I can easily move 95% of my flying to either QF-coded EK-operated flights or CX for destinations not part of the joint QF/EK network. Sure I earn less points on CX but with the increasing devaluation of points, it seems QFF is becoming useful almost exclusively for the status benefits of OWE.
 
I had a number of op-ups in 2013 to premium economy and business on international services and I cant say I have noticed these "ehancements" in meal services. But then again I dont travel in premium cabins on QF that often.

In October 2013 I was in premium economy QF8 BNE-SYD and the cooked breakfast was huge. It tasted like real breakfast and I was really surprised. Personally I cant stand cereals for breakfast or pastry for breakfast. I hardly ever eat pastry. Who does this? The French? It is awful.

The few times I have been in business BNE-SIN, SIN-BNE and SYD-SIN I have not had issues with the food provided.
 
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have to agree qantas business catering has many problems. the actual main meal service is incredible slow on those asia-australia overnight flights too. It took 3 hours after departure before dinner was finished on QF23 the other day.

Agreed.

I fell asleep before the dinner service started on my last flight from SIN-SYD (QF6) in October. I ate in the lounge anyway so wasn't really hungry.

I skipped breakfast on the plane as I wanted some more sleep (I went straight to the office when we landed and had breakfast there).

Of course, I understand that QF is in cost-cutting mode. But what point is there in cutting so many services when customers who have been loyal for years decide that it's time to switch to the competition? Having already retained SG 16 days into my membership year, once I retain WP I think it is time that I start giving VA a proper go.

I've been flying VA J domestically as of late and honestly QF had better pick up their game. I have VA J again this Sunday and then QF J the weekend after. These flights will most likely seal the deal. My flying is self funded so I can choose who I want to fly - although cost and schedule is a consideration (but like last week when VA J was cheaper than QF Y it's a no brainer).

Internationally I've started flying NZ and have had nothing but brilliant service (in Y, PE and J) - it's just a pity about that stop in AKL.

Sure this recent defection has meant dropping to QF SG (I only did 1,000 SCs last membership year) but I haven't noticed a difference anyway.

In October 2013 I was in premium economy QF8 BNE-SYD and the cooked breakfast was huge. I was surprised. I cant stand cereals for breakfast or pastry for breakfast. I hardly ever eat pastry. Who does this? The French? It is awful.

You don't like the cooked breakfast, and don't like cereal or pastry.

What would you like to see on the breakfast menu?

I flew QF8 BNE-SYD in J in December. The cooked breakfast was pretty awesome but certainly wasn't the healthy option :)
 
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