Emirates need customer service wake up

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I recently flew my family with Emirates to Bangkok from Sydney in first class using points. It was a mix of business and pleasure. I had a meeting at 10am on the morning I arrived at 1am so I chose first class( business was not available) to ensure a good sleep before meeting.
Instead what occurred was a night of horror. A young child decided it didn't want to sleep so screamed for 7 hours. The mother refused to move to the lounge and every passenger was kept awake. I understand the mother was also upset but the staff repeatably tried to get her to move and she refused.
So my family were in a bad state and my meeting was a disaster. I complained in writing to Emirates and requested a partial refund of my points. I felt this was the least they could do.
It took 6 weeks for a response and what I received astonished me. It was a condescending form letter from Diana Banh Customer Affairs Australasia.


"The service and well-being of our passengers is of utmost significance and we do regret, from your comments, that this was not your experience on this occasion.


In accordance with international aviation conventions and established case law, airlines cannot be held responsible for passenger-to-passenger interaction onboard an aircraft.


Nevertheless, may I take this opportunity to assure you that we will be taking this incident as an example and a learning experience for the future.


We hope you can appreciate that we have fulfilled our contractual obligation to transport you, under our General Conditions of Carriage. "


The interesting part to this is this ladies refusal to give me the name of her superior or give me a phone number. Emirates complaints department are anonymous, you cannot talk to anyone by phone nor question a decision.


I will never fly again with Emirates and urge other members to follow suit. It is with the weight of number that these large airlines will start to listen to their customers.
 
Unfortunately screaming children happen from Y to F and while I totally agree that travelling in F you'd hope for a lovely experience and would be really frustrated, this is not an Emirates issue. Could be any airline. The woman with the baby did not do anything 'illegal' in terms of aviation safety so there's nothing much that ANY crew could do.

And I don't think compensation is in order either.
 
Yes I understand. The issue was not the lady or the child but the terrible response from Emirates. They just didn't care. I have traveled many times with my children and we all hope to not disturb others.
 
I think the letter was appropriately dispassionate, particularly if the complaint it was in response to included phrases such as "a night of horror".

No compensation is warranted. Unfortunately the child has just as much right to cry as you have to silence or an approximation thereof.
 
Yes I understand. The issue was not the lady or the child but the terrible response from Emirates. They just didn't care. I have traveled many times with my children and we all hope to not disturb others.

What more could they say? They acknowledge you had a poor experience. And have passed your comments on for future training. They read, understood and acted.
 
This post comes across as a dummy spit because EK would not agree to a partial refund. Sorry but it comes across as a rant.

The staff on board attempted to deal with the issue at hand, so I'm not sure why you expect a partial refund. The response letter may be concise, I am not sure apart from a bit of empathy what else is expected?
 
Yes I understand. The issue was not the lady or the child but the terrible response from Emirates. They just didn't care. I have traveled many times with my children and we all hope to not disturb others.

What would you have liked the response from Emirates to be?

I concur with others. As much as it was obviously a terrible flight, it's not something Emirates had any control over. It was a flight attendant that spent seven hours balling, then you'd be entitled to something.
 
You don't have to look far on AFF to find others on various airlines (one airline in partiQular) who have asked for partial points refund when they were actually downgraded a cabin or two for part of their journey, and have struggled to get any refund even from that scenario.

As unfortunate as your situation was, it is therefore unrealistic to expect any form of points refund when you got from A to B, in the same class of service, with the same in flight service as you booked. Some airlines do occasionally offer gestures of goodwill for disruptions within their control (such as IFE or seat problems), but I don't think many (any?) would offer something in relation to being kept awake by other passengers.
 
Rant. ? I have spent over $20,000 on flights with emirates over the past 12 months and I was disgusted that they 1.didnt offer my family a seat in business, 2. as she was not asleep request the lady move into the lounge area until the child was settled. 3 or compensation with some empathy. They just didnt care. I have been in business for 30 years and if I treated my customers like this I wouldn't have a business.
Sure it was a child and children cry but no normal mother doesnt try other options ti get a chikd to sleep when offered. The woman was selfish and Emirates staff were not convincing.
 
In our own business we've spent much more than $20k but my thoughts still stand if it was me. Actually one of our night flights in July was dreadful with an overweight male in his forties who snored. Dreadfully. Not the airlines problem.
 
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Well it was not you. It was my wife my 5y old and someone needing sleep. You were not there..I was. The staff were great but could have done more.
My "rant" is justified and hopefully Emirates may in future show a little more empathy to a loyal customer rather than the anonymous Diana Banh with no phone number sending me a form letter. They have lost me forever.
 
The mother refused to move to the lounge and every passenger was kept awake. I understand the mother was also upset but the staff repeatably tried to get her to move and she refused.
Not quite sure what else they could have done - you acknowledge they tried.... maybe not convincing enough for you
 
Well it was not you. It was my wife my 5y old and someone needing sleep. You were not there..I was. The staff were great but could have done more.
My "rant" is justified and hopefully Emirates may in future show a little more empathy to a loyal customer rather than the anonymous Diana Banh with no phone number sending me a form letter. They have lost me forever.

Ok. Good luck with that.

But coming here and asking for opinions then telling people 'you were not there' isn't helpful. I'm someone's wife too! And I've experienced a similarly disruptive flight in a premium cabin and certainly don't blame the airline.
 
Good luck finding a new airline that will react differently (in any substantive way)...

.....although you could fly on MH..they apparently have banned "infants" from First......

Better hope they don't class your 5 year old as one of course....
 
Rant. ? I have spent over $20,000 on flights with emirates over the past 12 months and I was disgusted that they 1.didnt offer my family a seat in business, 2. as she was not asleep request the lady move into the lounge area until the child was settled. 3 or compensation with some empathy. They just didnt care. I have been in business for 30 years and if I treated my customers like this I wouldn't have a business.
Sure it was a child and children cry but no normal mother doesnt try other options ti get a chikd to sleep when offered. The woman was selfish and Emirates staff were not convincing.

Well it was not you. It was my wife my 5y old and someone needing sleep. You were not there..I was. The staff were great but could have done more.
My "rant" is justified and hopefully Emirates may in future show a little more empathy to a loyal customer rather than the anonymous Diana Banh with no phone number sending me a form letter. They have lost me forever.

Several of us, including myself, have asked what you would have expected in the email response from Emirates. So, again, what should they have written that would have appeased you?

And what should they flight attendants have done during the flight? As far as I can tell you wanted the woman and her crying baby to be forcibly moved to the lounge (you said the woman declined a request to do so) and you wanted to be moved to J. Did you ask if they could accommodate this? Were there seats in J? What about the other passengers in F? Shouldn't they also have been moved back?
 
If the mother and crying child were moved, wouldn't that only disrupt a different part of the aircraft? Oh wait, it's not F so it doesn't matter.
 
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To me it is obvious the OP was after either a partial refund and/or compensation due to the crying child in the cabin. EK has concisely pointed out they will not entertain this and the OP isn't happy. The first post stated that the FA's attempted to request that the parent settle their child in the lounge area, but the parent refused. For all we know they could have helped with the parent but we only have one side of the story here.

The OP in their responses on here has become a touch aggressive towards those who have stated a different POV to theirs. If this is how the correspondence with EK has gone, I can see why the OP hasn't got far.

To the OP, there is no point throwing in DYKWIA lines into here, as I can guarantee you there are other members on here who have spent multiples of your travel amount on here. Take a step back and take the responses on here for what they are.
 
Rant. ? I have spent over $20,000 on flights with emirates over the past 12 months and I was disgusted that they 1.didnt offer my family a seat in business, 2. as she was not asleep request the lady move into the lounge area until the child was settled. 3 or compensation with some empathy. They just didnt care. I have been in business for 30 years and if I treated my customers like this I wouldn't have a business.
Sure it was a child and children cry but no normal mother doesnt try other options ti get a chikd to sleep when offered. The woman was selfish and Emirates staff were not convincing.

1. Did you ask?
2. You are lying, you already admitted they asked her but she declined.
 
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