Do Classic awards with QF earn FF points/ SC's

[extracta]

Excuse my ignorance but I am starting to see QF as an option.

Do classic awards earn FF points and SC's.

I think ASA's do but am not sure.

Thanks in advance.

 

[TonyHancock]

Classics don't earn status credits or points I'm afraid.

 

[cove]

Sometimes Any Seat awards are very reasonable but other times if the numbers are like one million plus we book Classic at the more modest points level.
Classic earns you nothing extra plus you pay the levies.
Our last Classic was 144,000 each versus about 1.34 million on Any Seat so we are going Classic to Los Angeles one way.

 

[maggies1]

I booked an any seat award on Qantas site from Newcastle to Brisbane and selected the Jetstar direct flight. Used 8,000 points and $54 cash using the slider back from 14,000 points. When the flight showed up in my account it said no points and no status credits. I called the customer service line and she said as it was a saver fare it did not earn points or status credits. I told her that I could have booked the exact same flight as a classic reward for the same result for less money.
So beware if booking Jetstar flights on any seat awards.

 

[markis10]

I booked an any seat award on Qantas site from Newcastle to Brisbane and selected the Jetstar direct flight. Used 8,000 points and $54 cash using the slider back from 14,000 points. When the flight showed up in my account it said no points and no status credits. I called the customer service line and she said as it was a saver fare it did not earn points or status credits. I told her that I could have booked the exact same flight as a classic reward for the same result for less money.
So beware if booking Jetstar flights on any seat awards.

You need to select the plus bundle to gets SCs, which is often very little when converted to $$$

 

[maggies1]

Thank you Markis10.
I thought because it was an any seat award it would include the extras without paying extra cash or points. The any seat award was 14,000 points. I will pay closer attention next time I book. I wanted to fly from Sydney but it was 96,000 points to book the day before travel or $419 cash, so I spent 4 hours on the train/bus to Newcastle airport. I booked the any seat award for the status credits I thought I would get.
maggies1

 

[markis10]

Thank you Markis10.
I thought because it was an any seat award it would include the extras without paying extra cash or points. The any seat award was 14,000 points. I will pay closer attention next time I book. I wanted to fly from Sydney but it was 96,000 points to book the day before travel or $419 cash, so I spent 4 hours on the train/bus to Newcastle airport. I booked the any seat award for the status credits I thought I would get.
maggies1

Quoted ASAs include luggage but not the plus option

 

[drron]

Sometimes Any Seat awards are very reasonable but other times if the numbers are like one million plus we book Classic at the more modest points level.
Classic earns you nothing extra plus you pay the levies.
Our last Classic was 144,000 each versus about 1.34 million on Any Seat so we are going Classic to Los Angeles one way.

Just for illustration of this point.Today I booked 2 FASAs JNB-SYD for next year.2 classic awards were 252000 points,the 2 FASAs were 268000 points so really a no brainer to take the FASA as mrsdrron herself will earn more than 16000 points with the FASA.
Going back and looking after I made our booking there are no longer classic awards available for our date and a FASA is 564000 points.

 

[amaroo]

Just for illustration of this point.Today I booked 2 FASAs JNB-SYD for next year.2 classic awards were 252000 points,the 2 FASAs were 268000 points so really a no brainer to take the FASA as mrsdrron herself will earn more than 16000 points with the FASA.
Going back and looking after I made our booking there are no longer classic awards available for our date and a FASA is 564000 points.

I can almost see the smile on your face from up here

 

[amaroo]

Thank you Markis10.
I thought because it was an any seat award it would include the extras without paying extra cash or points. The any seat award was 14,000 points. I will pay closer attention next time I book. I wanted to fly from Sydney but it was 96,000 points to book the day before travel or $419 cash, so I spent 4 hours on the train/bus to Newcastle airport. I booked the any seat award for the status credits I thought I would get.
maggies1

What a horror story - J* + QF seems to = FQ :evil:

 

[drewbles]

What a horror story - J* + QF seems to = FQ :evil:

Jetstar - A Qantas Group Airline*

*when it suits us

 

[amaroo]

Sometimes Any Seat awards are very reasonable but other times if the numbers are like one million plus we book Classic at the more modest points level.
Classic earns you nothing extra plus you pay the levies.
Our last Classic was 144,000 each versus about 1.34 million on Any Seat so we are going Classic to Los Angeles one way.

Classic awards are great when booking multiply seats at the last minute, have taken many trips to SIN, BKK & HGK & will continue to do so. BKK is harder these days but the other two are still good!

 

[melaus]

amaroo; I hear you, but can I throw something in here for help with my own knowledge base?
I've been with QFF since inception, retired and approaching late 60's.
Haven't used points much in recent years as when working, a lot of my trips were paid for.
I used points, virtually all "Classic" very rarely and am sitting on half a million at present.
In days gone by, when searching the avails, mainly into SEA, I used to think the points plus $'s fairly reasonable, however, just today with a few spare hours, I had a look around at Classics out of Australia to SEA and Europe, also to Europe out of say BKK and SIN.
To put it mildly, I simply cannot fathom how useless my points are now when combined with the fees.
I originally had a good job and travelled well, but also have recently gotten used to the likes of Air Asia and even Jetstar at times to/from Asia and around Asia, more than 50 flights over the last few years. Yes, you need to navigate the on-line sites carefully to accept what you want or need to pay for in extra's, but h_ll many of those extra's are peanuts. Mrs Mel. and I just had about 70K of luggage on A.A. out of BKK via KUL to MEL and paid as said above, "Peanuts". Perfect comfortable flights.
When A.A. have one of their often sales, to get from here to say BKK can total less than a couple of hundred $'s ALL UP.
Realize fully that some of you Status earning Exec. types reading this may be laughing whilst sipping your coughtail, but hey, my memory is still good and I don't believe in any way that I've significantly downgraded, to sit in the airmetal bus for 8 hours or so!

Can I say again in another way, after todays' exercise in points and pricing, I feel my near 500,000 QFF points are a joke.

Am I missing something?

 

[Paddy55]

amaroo; I hear you, but can I throw something in here for help with my own knowledge base?
I've been with QFF since inception, retired and approaching late 60's.
Haven't used points much in recent years as when working, a lot of my trips were paid for.
I used points, virtually all "Classic" very rarely and am sitting on half a million at present.
In days gone by, when searching the avails, mainly into SEA, I used to think the points plus $'s fairly reasonable, however, just today with a few spare hours, I had a look around at Classics out of Australia to SEA and Europe, also to Europe out of say BKK and SIN.
To put it mildly, I simply cannot fathom how useless my points are now when combined with the fees.
I originally had a good job and travelled well, but also have recently gotten used to the likes of Air Asia and even Jetstar at times to/from Asia and around Asia, more than 50 flights over the last few years. Yes, you need to navigate the on-line sites carefully to accept what you want or need to pay for in extra's, but h_ll many of those extra's are peanuts. Mrs Mel. and I just had about 70K of luggage on A.A. out of BKK via KUL to MEL and paid as said above, "Peanuts". Perfect comfortable flights.
When A.A. have one of their often sales, to get from here to say BKK can total less than a couple of hundred $'s ALL UP.
Realize fully that some of you Status earning Exec. types reading this may be laughing whilst sipping your coughtail, but hey, my memory is still good and I don't believe in any way that I've significantly downgraded, to sit in the airmetal bus for 8 hours or so!

Can I say again in another way, after todays' exercise in points and pricing, I feel my near 500,000 QFF points are a joke.

Am I missing something?

I find the points are best used on JASA's - absolutely best 'bang for the buck'.
I'm philosophic about the fuel fines & taxes and rationalise that for about half the price of an economy fare I get a Bus class seat.
Planning 11 months ahead I snagged 2 x JASAs for next Dec and 3 x JASAs for next Jan, LAX-SYD. 480,000 points + $2,672. :mrgreen:
(Of course the JASAs all earn points and SCs so there are future benefits) :mrgreen:


The second best use of points I find is for upgrades.
I do a fair bit of SYD-PER-SYD, and 10k points to upgrade into a SkyBed I is, IMHO, good value.
The occasional DONE4 and upgrading J - F on SYD-LAX for 45k points is even better :mrgreen:

Finally, if you have no use for 500,000 points.... pick me, pick me, pick me!

 

[melaus]

Finally, if you have no use for 500,000 points.... pick me, pick me, pick me!

I guess I deserved that.

I'll persevere some more, just looking at Jetstar on-line having a two for one sale!

 

[amaroo]

amaroo; I hear you, but can I throw something in here for help with my own knowledge base?
I've been with QFF since inception, retired and approaching late 60's.
Haven't used points much in recent years as when working, a lot of my trips were paid for.
I used points, virtually all "Classic" very rarely and am sitting on half a million at present.
In days gone by, when searching the avails, mainly into SEA, I used to think the points plus $'s fairly reasonable, however, just today with a few spare hours, I had a look around at Classics out of Australia to SEA and Europe, also to Europe out of say BKK and SIN.
To put it mildly, I simply cannot fathom how useless my points are now when combined with the fees.
I originally had a good job and travelled well, but also have recently gotten used to the likes of Air Asia and even Jetstar at times to/from Asia and around Asia, more than 50 flights over the last few years. Yes, you need to navigate the on-line sites carefully to accept what you want or need to pay for in extra's, but h_ll many of those extra's are peanuts. Mrs Mel. and I just had about 70K of luggage on A.A. out of BKK via KUL to MEL and paid as said above, "Peanuts". Perfect comfortable flights.
When A.A. have one of their often sales, to get from here to say BKK can total less than a couple of hundred $'s ALL UP.
Realize fully that some of you Status earning Exec. types reading this may be laughing whilst sipping your coughtail, but hey, my memory is still good and I don't believe in any way that I've significantly downgraded, to sit in the airmetal bus for 8 hours or so!

Can I say again in another way, after todays' exercise in points and pricing, I feel my near 500,000 QFF points are a joke.

Am I missing something?

I always book 4 sometimes 5 seats in J or F for last minute trips to Asia - paying a fee of $1530 + points for 4 return J tickets to HGK on CX & their new J class cabin is IMHO a sweet deal.

FWIW, retail price on CX web site for same day & same flights is A$27,400.....hard to see any valueless transaction here - YMMV.